Jenny wrote:

> A couple more thoughts:
> I think the humanitarian argument for initiating a war doesn't fly because
it is selective.  If we were driven by this, >then we would intervene far
more often in the world than we do.

It's a matter of numbers and resources - more people and countries,
including the U.S,. are in direct immediate danger from Saddam at this time.
If he can be stopped, it is ultimately a humanitarian "win" and may possibly
make other despots around the world think twice.

> And frankly, when it was to our perceived benefit to support Saddam
against Iran, we took them off the list of >countries who supported
terrorists and began helping to build them economically and militarily.

That was back when Iran was attacking U.S. citizens and avowing itself as an
enemy of the U.S..  Not to say it wasn't completely boneheaded to have been
so quick to support Saddam.  I think the reasoning at the time was to let
both of them focus on each other rather than other countries.  I've seen
this question and heard it answered that the U.S. was also an ally of Stalin
in WWII but then that all changed very quickly after that war as we all
know.

> And the argument that a regime change is necessary for the safety of
Americans...I'm still waiting for someone to >explain how launching an
attack will make us safer?

I'm still waiting for someone to explain how not trying to stop him will
make us safer.  If we don't do anything and are attacked in the U.S. with
anthrax and smallpox and dirty nukes, which they probably already have in
place here, then what do we say?  I know a lot of people will say it's all
Bush's fault, either way.  That will make some people happy because they can
feel they were right all along but what a pyrrhic victory for them.  What
suggestions do you have to stop the threat?  I don't mean that facetiously
but it seems no one has any better ideas.

>Has our intervention and involvement in the middle east *ever* made us
safer?

Yes, for years we've stopped a lot of terrorist groups in the mid-east from
attacking us more than they would have if we had just let them go unchecked.
However, a lot of our interventions and how they stopped us from harm will
never be detailed on TV or universally disseminated.  I know this for a
fact, and I know that many people in the U.S. who have worked in the
government or military also know this for a fact, but are constrained from
giving out the details to the public.  I'd like to give my own personal
knowledge of such instances but I think classified security clearances are
in effect forever.

>CIA director George Tenet has said >an attack may provoke Saddam to use
biological and chemical weapons and >convince him to begin in earnest to
>support terrorist attacks against americans.

Has George Tenet presented us with a better alternative plan?  I haven't
seen any, other than to not do anything.

With all this said, I would still like more details released to the public
as to why Saddam is an imminent threat.  Donald Rumsfeld and Condoleeza Rice
both gave interviews on TV back in September stating unequivocally that
there is hard evidence linking Iraq and Saddam with Bin Laden and Al Qaeda.
I am surprised that more people did not notice this but a lot gets lost in
the news coverage.  I'd like to hear more about the direct evidence to help
myself and others understand the threat better.  Although, it's not much of
a stretch for me for me to think they are involved with each other.  I think
we are between a rock and a hard place.  All we can do is hope that Saddam
agrees with the UN resolution and agrees to the start complying again with
the UN rules in his country.

Kakki

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