I haven't been reading the jmdl for the last few days as I'd had enough of the personal abuse. I only caught sight of a few today and don't know the context of the discussions, but Colin, yes, Laurie Mylroie is American, a former adviser on the mid-east to Clinton, Iraq specialist, has long advocated a link between Islamic terrorists, including bin Laden, and Saddam Hussein (was doing so before September 11). And Christopher Hitchens is pro-war, and for the person who said Hitchens defended Noam Chomsky, perhaps he used to, but he certainly doesn't now. Chomsky has gone off the radar as far as even many people on the left are concerned, and when he does make sense, it's almost always with ideas he's stolen from other people.
I also read some of the attacks on Kakki. Hey Kakki, when I'm not there, you're the one to get it in the neck. But it's interesting that it always has to be someone, and that the personal attacks always come from the left. Kakki is someone who, in my experience of reading her posts, is always prepared to listen respectfully to the other side, because she genuinely wants to be informed, and if she hears a better argument than the one she has put forward, I would say she would change her mind - because she goes with the facts and the arguments, and isn't an ideological sheep. And she reads. So she knows things. Always a distinct advantage, although knowledge seems to be held in contempt by a small number of people on this list, like those who were commenting on Chomsky without having read him. (Query: how can Americans, who are supposed to be leftwing and supposed to be interested in politics, have managed not to read Noam Chomsky??) There are two real bullies on this list, and I take it you both know who you are, and another half dozen prepared to rip into people for not being politically correct, in YOUR opinion. I wish you would stop it, and stop supporting the bullying. This is SO NOT-Joni Mitchell, it's hard to believe. But bear in mind there are nearly 800 people on the list, so you are in the tiniest of minorities - you just happen to be vocal. To the listowner, Les, with the greatest of respect, I have a suggestion, which is that people who use personal insults either in posts to the list, or in private emails to jmdl-ers, be removed from the list. Three strikes and you're out or something. This could be a lively forum for sharing ideas and meeting people with different backgrounds, but it's ruined by a tiny number of people who take great delight in trying to hurt people. And yet who present themselves as the only ones on the list with any heart! Bah, humbug!!!! Sarah At 9:46 AM +0000 02/15/2003, colin wrote: >kakki wrote: > >>> >>> >>Where is she from? >> >> >>>If from the uSA, where esle does she have allegience to? >>> >this doesn't answer my questions tho i thank you for the added info. > >>> >>> >> >>She was Clinton's adviser on Middle East terrorism and Iraq for the entire 8 >>years, I believe. She was stating the Saddam/Al Queda connection long before >>Bush ever came into office. CIA reports during Clinton's time made the same > >connection. That was my only point - the idea did not arise for the first > >time with Bush. > > > >Kakki
