one other possible reason that people don't respond to
your vitriolic posts is that you consistently choose
to post private responses to on-list debates. 
just a thought.
alison e. in nyc
ps: "boyz in the hood" was by john singleton, not
spike lee. 

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 2/21/2001 8:14:28 AM Pacific
> Standard Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> <<  i think the silence was deafening because it was
> a
>  bullshit analogy.>>>
> 
> The Unibomber was "bullshit". Yeah right.
> 
> <>>
> 
> First of all they never "claim" anything. I guess
> the loggers maimed by the 
> Earth First group dont count in your book. 
> 
> <<<plenty of property, millions of dollars worth,
> has been destroyed by (or 
> claimed to have been destroyed by) this group. so
> what you are saying with 
> this argument, marcel, is that this destroyed
> property is just as valuable as 
> the lives of thousands of victims of the KKK and
> other race-based hate 
> groups.>>>
> 
> In the movie Boys in the Hood your statistic is
> refuted and that was by Spike 
> Lee. 63 people were killed in the Rodney King Riots.
> At least 23,000 blacks 
> were killed by other blacks in this decade and that
> number is on the low 
> side. The number according to Spike Lee is less than
> 6. So my point is that 
> many exaggerate and over emphasize the damage while
> totally ignoring all 
> kinds of other facts history and statistics. I take
> it that you believe that 
> to wipe thousands of jobs property and entire towns
> off the map to save a 
> spotted owl is nothing. THAT was my point and thanks
> for proving it. 
>  
> <<< in fact, this group (that i don't support, by
> the way) takes these 
> actions in a misguided attempt to save the planet
> for all creatures, human 
> and non. they are
>  trying to wake people up to the devastation that is
> occuring everyday in our 
> own backyards.>>>
> 
> Ask the people who for generations made their living
> and raised their kids 
> working as loggers and farmers and now are
> unemployed in Appalacia West. They 
> will tell you what devastation is. You can continue
> to justify your political 
> views with junk science fabricated by junk
> scientists with a political axe to 
> grind and little empiracle evidence to support their
> violence but thats your 
> perogative.
> 
>  <<<no, i dont' think it's the right approach. i
> don't believe in violence as 
> a political tactic. >>>
> 
> Sure you do you just said so above.
> 
> <<<but they aren't specifically trying to hurt or
> denegrate people or
>  advance an agenda based on hate (unless you think
> hating developers and 
> corporations like monsanto is the same thing, i
> guess).   >>
> 
> This is the problem. As long as we believe we are
> only attacking the 
> amorphous "corporation" then its cool in your book?
> They certainly do hate. 
> Just as the anti war 60s people today cant bring
> themselves to admit today 
> they treated the people who fought in Viet nam like
> dogs , today you cant see 
> that it isnt the corporations alone that they are
> hurting. 
> 
> <<>>
> 
> The Clintons are the quintessential example of the
> deterioration in the 
> meaning of everything that the liberals used to
> stand for. They have forced 
> the left to evacuate the moral high ground and
> expend all its credibility 
> just to defend them.  Same with jessie.I guess we
> all owe Nixon an apology 
> sine to criticize a President who breaks a million
> laws makes us diatribers.  
> After all whats a little abuse of power when his
> poll ratings are high (which 
> they were) ? The great blind spot in the left's
> intellect.. Defending a 
> rapist who happens to be president I would have
> thought unimaginable. But it 
> is those who deign to criticize him that have to be
> put down. Stealing the 
> furniture out of the White House is to our political
> culture what Eminem is 
> to our musical culture. Now do you get it. Maybe
> not. 
> 
> I very much agree with you on one thing and that is
> how these kinds of 
> matters do in fact intiiate discussion of important
issues.

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