Catherine Udall Turley wrote:

> <<everyone considers the responsibly attached to free speech. Its not an
> excuse for thoughtlessness or a lack of restraint.
>
> I don't know the particulars of what's up with Kakki, and I agree that
> it was her personal decision to leave, but when someone who has been so
> generous both with the larger community and with dozens of individual
> listers, someone who, IMO, has been as fair and accepting and balanced
> as anybody else on the list--when somebody like her just can't take it
> anymore, then I'd say its not her problem alone.
>
> I'm profoundly sorry she has gone.  Feels like someone leeched the light
> out of the room.>>>

and now me:

> Thank you for this most insightful post Catherine. I feel that the
> situation which has been and continues to brew is definitely our
> collective problem.  I ask all of you, is it not our responsibility as
> members of this warm, loving, caring community to sit up and take notice
> that there IS something we can do?  This whole thing can be perceived as a
> great big wake up call, an opportunity to effect change before the walls
> come tumbling down around us. Yes, people do make their own decisions to
> leave, but the question at the end of the day is why? A great big
> resounding why?

> Perhaps now is not time to be in our heads by trying to analyze this from
> a rational thinking place, but rather, from the tender place deep inside
> our hearts.  In my heart, I know that many, many people here love our dear
> Kakki, our sister and our friend. We will miss her terribly.

> Now that Ashara is feeling the way she is, well what are we going to do
> about it?  Imagine Ashara leaving too. It is with great pain and sadness
> that I contemplate that possibility.  I know I am not going to sit back
> and say nothing and just let that happen. No way.

Mags, really struggling with this situation this morning.




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