David Marine wrote:

Yes, really, as a free gay man,

I wouldn't say I was 'free'/ yes thing sare different but we are still not eqaul in law.


you DO owe a debt of gratitude to Ginsberg.

In the UK that goes to Wolfeden and the Earl of Arran-they were theones who cleared the way and changed the law.






That being said, he may simply have been wrong. In his later life he freely admitted that some of his advocacy was wrong-headed, misguided, or simply stupid

then i am sure he would think this of his support of NAMBLA. Having said all that, my major beef is that anyone could support NAMBLA. No one is perfect and Ginsberg, like anyone else, is entiteld to be wrong.


. He was consistently honest, even about his own mistakes. Your points are certainly well-taken, and I believe that if Ginsberg had discovered that his political advocacy had brought harm to a child, he would have been horrified.

What i don't understadn is how an intelligent person could have made such a mistake. it doesn't take a genius to understadn what NAMBLA wnats-and it has precious little to do with poltical freedom, equality, or anything high minded. It's members/advocates to be able to fuck with boys with impunity. simple.


It is also importnat to point out that to cite 16-17yr olds having sex with 19-20 year olds is NOT the issue, and is just a diversionary tacting that will not work.



Best,

David

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