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1. Re: Joomla for Entrepreneurs (Mitch Pirtle)
2. Re: Joomla for Entrepreneurs (Donna Marie Vincent)
3. Re: Joomla for Entrepreneurs (Leam Hall)
4. Re: Joomla for Entrepreneurs (ozzie sutcliffe)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:17:08 -0400
From: Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pir...@gmail.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla for Entrepreneurs
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TEN WAYS TO ENSURE YOUR WEBSITE WILL GO NOWHERE
Man, I am going to have soooo much fun on those slides! hehe
-- Mitch
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Donna Marie
Vincent<donnamarievinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yeah, the people who make money here are the ones selling the teaching.
Like the "4 hour work week" book.? I've had many clients who wanted a
website based on this type of selling and they have all failed.? They
thought "if you build it they will come".? No one came.? They fused over the
tiniest details on their site but had no marketing plan or budget.
People are making money selling books saying your website can run itself
while supporting your early retirement.
I would like to write a blog about what *not* to do or expect from your
website business.
________________________________
From: Hans C. Kaspersetz <h...@cyberxdesigns.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:00:39 AM
Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla for Entrepreneurs
I would like to learn how to generate streams of income
through my website. Advertising, selling of leads, selling
products, etc. I'd like to learn how to set those things up &
how to keep track of referrals from my site.
Hmmm...... If only this could be taught.? Maybe I should write a book about
this.? I could make a fortune selling it through my Joomla! web site.? And
in the process I might setup a merchant account, shopping cart, affiliate
tracking system and a web analytics to track and monetize the crush of
traffic referred to my site.
Hans
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:43:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievinc...@yahoo.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla for Entrepreneurs
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Question: How are you going to keep it down to *ten*?! I have ten real-life
stories just off the top of my head.
(btw, I meant "fussed over", not "fused over".)
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From: Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pir...@gmail.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 3:17:08 PM
Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla for Entrepreneurs
TEN WAYS TO ENSURE YOUR WEBSITE WILL GO NOWHERE
Man, I am going to have soooo much fun on those slides! hehe
-- Mitch
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Donna Marie
Vincent<donnamarievinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yeah, the people who make money here are the ones selling the teaching.
Like the "4 hour work week" book. I've had many clients who wanted a
website based on this type of selling and they have all failed. They
thought "if you build it they will come". No one came. They fused over the
tiniest details on their site but had no marketing plan or budget.
People are making money selling books saying your website can run itself
while supporting your early retirement.
I would like to write a blog about what *not* to do or expect from your
website business.
________________________________
From: Hans C. Kaspersetz <h...@cyberxdesigns.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:00:39 AM
Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla for Entrepreneurs
I would like to learn how to generate streams of income
through my website. Advertising, selling of leads, selling
products, etc. I'd like to learn how to set those things up &
how to keep track of referrals from my site.
Hmmm...... If only this could be taught. Maybe I should write a book about
this. I could make a fortune selling it through my Joomla! web site. And
in the process I might setup a merchant account, shopping cart, affiliate
tracking system and a web analytics to track and monetize the crush of
traffic referred to my site.
Hans
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:36:39 -0400
From: Leam Hall <l...@reuel.net>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla for Entrepreneurs
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Some partly coherent thoughts...
For the entrepreneur:
1. How do I bring together joomla, a shopping cart, a forum, etc, and
make sure the look and feel stays the same without manually configuring
each CSS file every time?
2. What hit statistics are available? How are they graphed?
3. If I hire a Joomla programmer for one project and 6 months later
hire a different one, how much time/cost will the second programmer
spend figuring out what the first one did?
4. I want to move to "Mitch's Awesome Hosting Company", how hard will
it be to keep my site intact and how difficult is it to clone?
5. Most sites seem real slow, how do I use Joomla and still make sure
my site loads quickly?
6. What's the top end of Joomla capacity?
For the Joomloid:
1. How do I deal with YoMomma and other half-baked mega hosting for
free options that install crippled PHP/Apache/MySQL functionality?
2. What are some big wins I can discuss with a client to maximize their
site development ROI?
3. Auto mechanics have a book that says how many hours to charge for
each job. Is there a similar thing for Joomla tasks so I can price work
I don't yet know how to do without making the customer pay for my direct
education?
4. What are some awesome sites using Joomla that I can learn from?
5. How do I show the client the dollar value of decent hosting plans?
That's all my workday worn brain can come up with. Some of the other
responses have been great! I'm enjoying reading as much as contributing.
Leam
Mitch Pirtle wrote:
Ok, asked the almighty Twitter for what topics would be of interest,
and got nothing but crickets.
Now I'm trying the list, hoping for more ;-)
If you were to attend a session called "Joomla for Entrepreneurs",
what topics would you find the most interesting or valuable?
-- Mitch
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:56:57 -0400
From: ozzie sutcliffe <oz.sutcli...@gmail.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla for Entrepreneurs
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FYI as recovering mechanic . The rates are the book rate or whatever
it takes Bill the longest .
If you come to me and want a custom exhaust I am going to charge you
what it take to make that exhaust. Your car off the showroom floor is
the Joomla std package. Any options will be billed extra and just like
you car I will have to read the instructions and figure out how to
install the roof rack.
Figuring stuff out is part of your job and in any other trade you get
paid for your time so why should working with Joomla be any different
?
When you come to me and say I want a 3 " exhaust with this carb and
that cam etc I will charge you time and materials as I don't know all
the implications.
After all a doctor gets paid for diagnosis , so should we !!!
Consider yourself architects and you are creating the master blueprints
Even is the house does not get built you should get paid for your time.
snip
Auto mechanics have a book that says how many hours to charge for each
job. Is there a similar thing for Joomla tasks so I can price work I
don't yet know how to do without making the customer pay for my direct
education
Oz
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