Hi Donna

I think the performance issue still applies without the navigation.

Building on Mitch's original point that "templates are the biggest source of pain IMHO", if you're interested in performance, Anthony's tool is really good for testing templates before you buy.

Regards

Steve


Donna Marie Vincent wrote:
Actually, the link to the template is http://demo.yootheme.com/jul09/

http://demo.yootheme.com/index.php?show=jul09 contains the frame that has the navigation through the various templates.


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*From:* Stephen Burge <st...@joomlatraining.com>
*To:* ny...@lists.nyphp.org; s...@lists.nyphp.org
*Sent:* Monday, July 20, 2009 8:01:57 PM
*Subject:* Re: [joomla] Performance question

I'm not able to see that in practice unfortunately.

Do a quick scan of that template using Anthony's performance grader:
http://www.joomlaperformance.com/component/option,com_performance/Itemid,52/

Use their demo URL: http://demo.yootheme.com/index.php?show=jul09/

Much slower and heavier than they claim.

Steve





Donna Marie Vincent wrote:
> Did you see the new template from Yootheme, built on their Warp framework? Supposed to be superfast yet still has all the bells and whistles: http://yootheme.com/blog/item/root/faster-loading-with-warp5
>
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> *From:* Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pir...@gmail.com <mailto:mitch.pir...@gmail.com>> > *To:* NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla@lists.nyphp.org <mailto:joomla@lists.nyphp.org>>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 20, 2009 4:41:01 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [joomla] Performance question
>
> Even a shared host should be able to pump out 50k views in a month.
> However if you really worry about scale, a good bet is to get a
> dedicated webserver, and a dedicated mysql server. Then trick out your
> webserver to have a php cache (like xcache, which is my favorite) and
> also a cache (memcache is my favorite for this).
>
> Those things should provide a Joomla site that can scale well beyond
> what you are talking about. Keep in mind that Joomla can only go as
> fast as the stuff you make it do - and there are plenty of 3rd party
> extensions (templates are the biggest source of pain IMHO) that will
> severely limit your ability to scale.
>
> Just setup a datacenter with three webservers and three database
> servers, expecting to exceed 40 million page views in the first day.
>
> -- Mitch
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Mark Holberg<i...@waynorth.com <mailto:i...@waynorth.com> <mailto:i...@waynorth.com <mailto:i...@waynorth.com>>> wrote: > > Will Joomla perform adequately as a publishing platform for a news site that > > has the potential to reach at least 50,000 views a month. I would appreciate
> > having any insight into resolving potential issues?
> >
> > Here's what I consider the four features that have to be robust:
> >
> > I realize these point to extensions, but can a system that meets the feature
> > requirements handle the load?
> >
> > * Stories – Current content, plus archive content quickly accessible
> > * Calendering – flexible, attractive, fast
> > * Search – responsive, intelligent, relevant
> > * Ad serving – full featured, responsive, reliable
> >
> > I also wonder whether the answer ultimately rests on how well the server
> > performs.
> >
> > thanks,
> > Mark
> >
> > --
> > Mark Holberg
> > WayNorth Web
> > Web Design & Hosting
> > Watertown, NY 13601
> > 315-486-0615
> > http://www.WayNorth.com
> >
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