Hi All, Mitch managed to put a bee in my bonnet about version control of my project files and I've spent the last 10 hours reviewing different options and have done some tests with Mercurial and TortoiseHg. What I've run into is an issue with versioning binary files. I would like to know how people are handling this. Hg, Subversion and CVS seem to provide some work arounds but they all look a little ugly and if there is a better way I would love to hear about it. Thanks, Herb
Herbert M. Tucker Principal Covenant Technical Services, Inc. P: 732-497-0326 C: 848-218-9172 F: 732-497-0326 E: htuc...@covenanttek.com W: www.covenanttek.com ____________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________________ ______ This electronic message transmission contains information from Covenant Technical Services, Inc. which may be confidential or privileged. Recipients should not file copies of this e-mail with publicly accessible records. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify us by electronic mail immediately and delete this email from your system. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: joomla-boun...@lists.nyphp.org [mailto:joomla-boun...@lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of joomla-requ...@lists.nyphp.org Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 12:00 PM To: joomla@lists.nyphp.org Subject: joomla Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17 Send joomla mailing list submissions to joomla@lists.nyphp.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to joomla-requ...@lists.nyphp.org You can reach the person managing the list at joomla-ow...@lists.nyphp.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of joomla digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? (Helv?cio da Silva) 2. Re: Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? (Ajai Khattri) 3. Re: Redmine (Gary Mort) 4. Re: Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? (Mark Simko) 5. Re: Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? (Gary Mort) 6. Re: Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? (Ajai Khattri) 7. Re: Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? (Gary Mort) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:37:01 -0200 From: Helv?cio da Silva <helvecio...@gmail.com> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla@lists.nyphp.org> Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? Message-ID: <6142ad2c1002151137s3aa2a7fbs3c07e4c181bd...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" This sure was an eye-opener! Thanks! 2010/2/15 Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pir...@gmail.com> > This is actually solid development practice, something I've been doing > for years, and it's the way we managed development of Joomla (and > Mambo before it). If Git is too modern for you and you just gotta > stick with subversion, you can try one of these: > > * http://beanstalkapp.com/ > * http://unfuddle.com/ > > If you develop websites for a living and don't use some sort of source > code revision control, you're making a HUGE mistake. > > I setup subversion to run on a server - usually at ServerBeach - and > also provision that server with automated backups. I then checkout my > project on the local machine (laptop) where I do development. Whenever > I finish something, I simply commit, and that sends the new code up to > the subversion repository on the server, which in turn gets backed up. > I have a local external drive that I use for TimeMachine, more than > anything as a precaution in case my laptop gets too much coffee or > falls down the stairs late at night. > > In the end, the likelihood of the following all happening at the exact > same time is very close to absolute zero: > > * external drive fail > * laptop fail > * server fail > * datacenter backup systems fail > > And after some thought, if all these things failed at the same time > then I probably got bigger problems than some stupid website. > > -- Mitch > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -- Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio...@gmail.com http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.nyphp.org/pipermail/joomla/attachments/20100215/27a6f29d/attac hment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:56:36 -0500 (EST) From: Ajai Khattri <a...@bitblit.net> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla@lists.nyphp.org> Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? Message-ID: <pine.lnx.4.44.1002151552490.28676-100...@bitblit.net> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, Mitch Pirtle wrote: > * http://beanstalkapp.com/ > * http://unfuddle.com/ http://www.sourcerepo.com Oh and cvsdude is now Codesion http://codesion.com (despite the old name, they have been doing svn for years). -- Aj. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:37:45 -0500 From: Gary Mort <garyam...@gmail.com> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla@lists.nyphp.org> Subject: Re: [joomla] Redmine Message-ID: <4bffc351002151337k1a399eem220fe7a33c7dd...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Heroku looks quit a bit better in terms of quality, setup and support. I had to really bend Media Temple in a few places to get this up. I think after doing that...I might go to Heroku's personal account instead and save some time/effort... of course, then I have to figure out how to export what little I have first. :-) On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pir...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > You can also run your own Redmine/RoR server at Heroku for free: > > * http://heroku.com/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.nyphp.org/pipermail/joomla/attachments/20100215/2fc5fac3/attac hment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:53:55 -0500 From: Mark Simko <masi...@verizon.net> To: joomla@lists.nyphp.org Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? Message-ID: <1266270835.6546.453.ca...@jersey> Content-Type: text/plain On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 11:02 -0500, joomla-requ...@lists.nyphp.org wrote: > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:17:15 -0200 > From: Helv?cio da Silva <helvecio...@gmail.com> > To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla@lists.nyphp.org> > Subject: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? > Message-ID: > <6142ad2c1002150617y6fe2347dl422fa7b6de96c...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi all! > > I've been trying out XAMPP in my Mac and it works like a charm! Easy > installation, easy GUI (could be improved). > > Once started, it doesn't matter wether I close or not my browser, it's > still > there. > > Database and Joomla installations are a breeze. And I've done those > more > than once just to make sure. > > I even realized how EASY it is to work on a Joomla site locally then > uploading it to a remote server!! ;-D > Sounds like the digital version of turducken to me! Doesn't Mac have apache/php/mysql? If not, why not just run a LAMP server? ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:11:18 -0500 From: Gary Mort <garyam...@gmail.com> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla@lists.nyphp.org> Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? Message-ID: <4bffc351002151711i73761a1bq1921fbd3be91a...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Sounds like the digital version of turducken to me! > > Doesn't Mac have apache/php/mysql? If not, why not just run a LAMP > server? > > I run MAMP Pro...... why MAMP instead of just running my own? Because it makes it very very easy to add new virtual hosts...sure I CAN edit the config files, but for 50 bucks I save myself a few hours of remembering each time. I also do it a bit...'weirdly'? For mydomain.com I have the following subdomains now setup: *.site.mydomain.com *.test.mydomain.com *.dev.mydomain.com These are wildcard entrees up on my DNS provider[DNS Made Easy] - they match ANY domains under those subdomains. both site and test point to my hosting provider's ip address. all devs point to 127.0.0.1 So, now when I want to do development, I add a virtual host to my local system, somewebsite.dev.mydomain.com On my own webserver, I also add somewebsite.test.mydomain.com AND somewebsite.site.mydomain.com So now, any changes on my local system can be tested and played with there[and I can even setup a local hosts file for offline testing]. Then I push changes up to dev when I'm ready to test there, and site for the client to be able to look at. Everything is under MY control. Ready to deploy? Just joomlapack site and then restore. As for version control...shamed to admit I just haven't used it. Finally getting that in sync and am moving towards Bazaar. It seems to have all the benefits of git without the weird structure enforced on you based on assuming you are developing an operating system. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.nyphp.org/pipermail/joomla/attachments/20100215/7e5aca4f/attac hment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:23:06 -0500 (EST) From: Ajai Khattri <a...@bitblit.net> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla@lists.nyphp.org> Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? Message-ID: <pine.lnx.4.44.1002160822000.28676-100...@bitblit.net> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, Gary Mort wrote: > As for version control...shamed to admit I just haven't used it. Finally > getting that in sync and am moving towards Bazaar. It seems to have all the > benefits of git without the weird structure enforced on you based on > assuming you are developing an operating system. Interesting choice - did you look at Mercurial? -- Aj. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:03:31 -0500 From: Gary Mort <garyam...@gmail.com> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla@lists.nyphp.org> Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? Message-ID: <4bffc351002160603s56674de6m8741b821ba83a...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Ajai Khattri <a...@bitblit.net> wrote: > On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, Gary Mort wrote: > > > As for version control...shamed to admit I just haven't used it. Finally > > getting that in sync and am moving towards Bazaar. It seems to have all > the > > benefits of git without the weird structure enforced on you based on > > assuming you are developing an operating system. > > Interesting choice - did you look at Mercurial? > > Yes, Mercurial was high on my list. Bazaar just feels right. I'm still flipflopping though, there are more people using Mercurial than Bazaar and Pragmatic Pub has a book in Mercurial...so I might end up going with it instead. I just have to stop stressing and decide. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.nyphp.org/pipermail/joomla/attachments/20100216/5129fe22/attac hment-0001.html> ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ joomla mailing list joomla@lists.nyphp.org http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla End of joomla Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17 ************************************** _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php