Thanks Donna I don't think there's any denying that open source projects that don't have businesses behind them are struggling to find models that work:
- Joomla has problems as you mentioned. - I still see huge projects starting on Drupal 6 because those developers don't believe Drupal 7 is stable yet. - Firefox is being rapidly overhauled by Google Chrome. Just because community open source projects have challenges doesn't mean we should give up and turn to business-owned open source. More reason to roll up our sleeves. Steve On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Donna Marie Vincent < [email protected]> wrote: > I stand corrected regarding the pay. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* OSTraining <[email protected]> > > *To:* NYPHP SIG: Joomla <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Sunday, August 7, 2011 10:23 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [joomla] WP V Joomla > > Donna > > Please, do a bit of research before slinging mud: > > The core team hasn't been paid in almost a year now. They are all > volunteers. > > At WordPress, they are almost all paid and paid one by one person. They run > an Apple model, where according to a WP core developer I talked to last > month, they have three dictators to make all final decisions. The good thing > about that for community members is that they largely don't have to worry > about the core code at all. > > Joomla (and increasingly Drupal) run more of the Android model where things > are more fragmented and if you do want to see improvements, you have to get > involved and push. There's no free ride from a big company that makes all > the decisions for us. > > Steve > > > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Scott Wolpow <[email protected]> wrote: > > One reason for WP rise is with people with zero budget. > It is very easy to use, but also very limited in scope and abilities. > Joomla is beginning to become a frustration. > But if you have complaints, then go and fix them. > Scott Wolpow > > > On 8/6/2011 10:30 PM, Stephen Britton wrote: > > Hi Gang, > > Hope everyone is enjoying the weekend. > > I want to remind everyone that at 6:30 PM on Thursday, August 11th, the > monthly Joomla NYC User Group meeting will take place at our new meeting > room at Lincoln Center, 146 West 65th Street. (For detailed directions, > visit www.joomlanyc.org ) > > Scott Wolpow will discuss wire frames and the best methods to layout > websites before you start building. I will present two Joomla templates - > Construct and LessJoomla - that work with every screen from smart phones to > jumbo television LCDs. > > I also have copies of Stephen Burge's new book, Joomla <explained> and > Barry North's Joomla 1.6: A User's Guide. > > We also need to remind everyone that Joomla Day Weekend is coming up soon > - October 22 and 23. To take advantage of the $15 per ticket discount, you > must register before Sept. 1. So if you haven't registered yet, think about > doing it soon. For information and registration, visit > www.joomladaynyc.com > > And if you have registered, you should visit the website because there is > recently updated information about the tracks and speakers. > > On other Joomla matters, I recently stumbled across an article, "How > WordPress Beat Joomla" on Weblog Tools Collection, a website devoted to > WordPress. The author, an Australian website designer, doesn't trash Joomla, > but he mentions how WordPress was able to make quick changes that helped > boost its popularity. > > I don't completely agree with him, especially the part where bases CMS > popularity on Google searches, but he brings up some interesting points. > > http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2011/08/05/how-wordpress-beat-joomla/ > > > Hope to see everyone on Thursday. > > All best, > > Steve > > -- > Stephen Britton > Technology Consultant > [email protected] > ph: 914-661-0040 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing > Listhttp://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Onlinehttp://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York > PHPhttp://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! 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