Thanks, feeling better already.
When you save the change in Cpanel, it restarts the service.
HostGator, GoDaddy and many others do not publish their real conflagrations. Even when you do a php info page.


We have been playing with Varnish to speed up the sites and when there is a need, we will write a 'pressflow' like system for Joomla.
It may be a Joomla Fork. It will depend on what direction a project goes in.
I got tired of other peoples machines so I now have my own NOC in Tarrytown.
Our hosting is by invite only.
SW

On 2/3/2012 9:50 PM, David Roth wrote:
Feel better and very soon, Scott!

I've not run into a problem with memory issues on MySQL, thanks for explaining it. Something to certainly watch out for. The most daring change I've made to my.cnf file is to move the MySQL databases to an eSATA RAID.

On shared hosting services, like Hostgator, you can copy the /etc/php.ini locally to your account and make whatever changes you need to make Joomla happy for installation and increase the memory limit. You can also use .htaccess to override those things as well. In the CPANEL there are additional options for PHP. The server on Hostgator doesn't need to be re-started for them to take effect. I forget what configuration of PHP they are using to achieve this. I know on my own CentOS server, I do have to restart httpd. I think it has to do with some option on PHP at compile time (of PHP itself) if you want things to take immediate effect or not.

Shared hosting can have its limits, and often times you don't know what they might even be until you start doing production. There is usually a work around but sometimes the limits aren't even documented.

David Roth

On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Scott Wolpow <sc...@wolpow.com <mailto:sc...@wolpow.com>> wrote:

    It is a php.ini issue, sorry have a bad cold.


    There is a similar error involving MySql.
    It comes from a search that has too many queries or joins.
    The MBString can cause that sometimes.

    Since you are on a shared platform, you must call support.

    The Apache server has to be restarted to take effect.

    On a dedicated server or VPS it is a simple service httpd restart
    In your environment you may have something in your cPanel.

    This is why shared is baaad.

    SW
    On 2/3/2012 9:01 PM, David Roth wrote:
    Scott, I must be missing something. How do you know this error
    message could be database related and not just PHP?

    "*Fatal error*: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted
    (tried to allocate 6859888 bytes) in
    */home/swarrez/public_html/sw173/libraries/phputf8/mbstring/core.php* on
    line *121"*

    David Roth



    On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Scott Wolpow <sc...@wolpow.com
    <mailto:sc...@wolpow.com>> wrote:

        Yes, for php mem limits, but that error can also be caused
        and cured by changing the my.cnf file.
        The mem limit is from the DB.

        SW

        On 2/3/2012 4:49 PM, Chris French wrote:
        You can also set the Memory limit inside of a php script,
        but the better place to do it is in the php.ini file as
        Donna pointed out.

        ini_set('memory_limit', '64M');

        should in most servers give you the increase in memory this
        can be good for testing

        Chris
        On Feb 3, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Donna Marie Vincent wrote:

        That's not "configuration.php".  That's the php
        configuration, which is php.ini.  Has nothing to do with
        Joomla or MySQL

        "configuration.php" is a file in the Joomla installation.

        ------------------------------------------------------------------------
        *From:* Helvécio da Silva <helvecio...@gmail.com
        <mailto:helvecio...@gmail.com>>
        *To:* NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla@lists.nyphp.org
        <mailto:joomla@lists.nyphp.org>>
        *Sent:* Friday, February 3, 2012 4:41 PM
        *Subject:* Re: [joomla] fatal error: allowed memory size

        I dont know wether it's a MySQL issue or Joomla issue.

        What I can say is when that happened to me I made the
        change in configuration.php and things started working fine.

        Check this post in the Joomla forum. Hope it helps.

        
http://forum.joomla.org/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=246541&p=1129624&hilit=increase+memory+limit#p1129457
        
<http://forum.joomla.org/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=246541&p=1129624&hilit=increase+memory+limit#p1129457>

        2012/2/3 Scott Wolpow <sc...@wolpow.com
        <mailto:sc...@wolpow.com>>

            It is a MySql issue, not a Joomla issue.
            Not sure if the Joomla user has the rights.

            SW


            On 2/3/2012 4:09 PM, David Roth wrote:
            I handle memory limit increases for PHP in the php.ini
            file. Am I missing something by it being cone in the
            configuration.php file? Thanks!

            David Roth


            On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Helvécio da Silva
            <helvecio...@gmail.com <mailto:helvecio...@gmail.com>>
            wrote:

                In your configuration.php file, write on the very
                first line

                ini_mem('memory_limit','12M');

                If it doesn't work, try to increase it.

                G'luck!

                2012/1/31 paul elliott <pefore...@hotmail.com
                <mailto:pefore...@hotmail.com>>

                    Hello,
                    I made a copy of my default template and
                    assigned it to a menu item for Hikashop
                    categories.
                    At some point, after i go into the Template
                    Manager, i now cannot get in to edit either
                    template.
                    I get this:

                    *Fatal error*: Allowed memory size of 33554432
                    bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 6859888
                    bytes) in
                    
*/home/swarrez/public_html/sw173/libraries/phputf8/mbstring/core.php* on
                    line *121*
                    *
                    *
                    Please help!
                    Thanks,
                    Paul




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