On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Al-Faisal El-Dajani < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ammar: Yes smarty solves a great deal of it, but it doesn't help me in > presenting different output formats. For instance, posts.php can be done > using smarty, but can I present posts.rss through it as well? What about CLI > compatible output? > > Soosa: Well, the idea is to build one, Why you want to build one while you can use a solid and powerful platform which is already pre-built and tested and you may use it in which ever format you want, this is a case where re-enventing the wheel is valid! > in order to fully understand MVC. And who said that if you used a pre-built framework you won't be able to understand MVC?!! while i really doubt that understanding the MVC methodology in solving programming problems would rquire building a framework from scratch! the general idea is to seperate buissniss logic, data management, and presentation layers from each other, do you really want to build your own framework in order to uderstand this while you can figure it out without building it from scratch and use one from the available platforms out there?!! > And by the way, most frameworks do not have any idea what MVC is. How come this is a valid judgment?!!!! > Heard a lot of good words about Agavi in that regard. yet a lot of more, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_application_frameworks > > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 4:12 PM, soosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Why not considering using an MVC framework?!!, there are a lot of solid >> and powerful yet simple to learn and use out there, Zend Framework, >> Simphony, Solar, CakePHP, and a lot of more! >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Ammar Ibrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Smarty? >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Al-Faisal El-Dajani >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > Hey all, >>> > >>> > This is driving me crazy... Has anyone here managed to make a true MVC >>> > separation without ending up with a fsck'd up mess of PHP and HTML in >>> the >>> > view? i18n, templating, and different output formats should be >>> considered. >>> > >>> > I managed to understand what the controller and the model are for, and >>> how >>> > to use them. But for the life of me I can't figure out how to do the >>> view. I >>> > am more than sure that it is far simpler than what i'm thinking, but so >>> far >>> > I can't seem to find a way to go about it. >>> > >>> > Also any points that can be given about how to cache aggressively would >>> be >>> > appreciated. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Al-Faisal El-Dajani >>> > Phone: +962-7-79737050 >>> > P.O Box: 140056 >>> > 11814 Amman, Jordan >>> > > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > Al-Faisal El-Dajani > Phone: +962-7-79737050 > P.O Box: 140056 > 11814 Amman, Jordan > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jordan PHP Users Group" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/JoPHP http://Jolug.org/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
