>From a process perspective, my recommendation would be for Web Crypto to 
>review the JOSE deliverables *before* they hit last call.  

What would be a good time for that from the Jose WG's perspective?

Thanks,
-- 
Thomas Roessler, W3C <[email protected]> (@roessler)



On 2013-01-23, at 12:18 +0100, Harry Halpin <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'd just like to note that the W3C Web Crypto WG (of which Mike Jones is a 
> member) have been informally liasoning. However, as we enter Last Call we may 
> need to formalize this relationship more.
> 
> I expect the Web Crypto WG to give a formal review of JOSE specs when they 
> hit Last Call. We probably don't need to sync charters (as that would delay 
> JOSE and we'd prefer JOSE to be stable *before* we hit Last Call), but we do 
> need to review and may need to ask for changes. If that is necessary to note 
> in the rechartering, please do so.
> 
> And yes, its via discussions in the WebCrypto WG that the need for private 
> and symmetric key JOSE formats was brought up. Our spec is not in Last Call, 
> and thus our use of those is not yet set in stone, but it does seem like a 
> good idea to add them to the charter as we may need them.
> 
>  cheers,
>    harry
> 
> 
> 
> On 01/11/2013 09:02 PM, Karen O'Donoghue wrote:
>> Folks,
>> 
>> Below is a draft update to our charter based on discussions at the last IETF 
>> meeting. The key changes are adding key representations and algorithm 
>> identifiers to the scope of work. This includes some minor language updates 
>> in the general section, the addition of deliverables 5-8, and the addition 
>> and modification of a number of milestones related to these documents.
>> 
>> In addition, the phrase "using a compact URL-safe representation" has been 
>> added to the descriptions of the first two deliverables and "compact JSON 
>> object" used in the milestones.
>> 
>> Jim and I will be submitting a revised charter shortly, and we would like 
>> your comments by 18 January if possible.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Karen
>> 
>> 
>> Description of Working Group
>> 
>> JavaScript Object Notation (JSON) is a text format for the serialization of 
>> structured data described in RFC 4627.  The JSON format is often used for 
>> serializing and transmitting structured data over a network connection.  
>> With the increased usage of JSON in protocols in the IETF and elsewhere, 
>> there is now a desire to offer security services such as encryption, digital 
>> signatures, message authentication codes (MACs), and key representations for 
>> data that is being carried in JSON format.
>> 
>> Different proposals for providing such security services have already been 
>> defined and implemented.  This Working Group's task is to standardize four 
>> kinds of security services, integrity protection (signature and MAC), 
>> encryption, key representations, and algorithm identifiers, in order to 
>> increase interoperability of security features between protocols that use 
>> JSON.  The Working Group will base its work on well-known message security 
>> primitives (e.g., CMS), and will solicit input from the rest of the IETF 
>> Security Area to be sure that the security functionality in the JSON format 
>> is correct.
>> 
>> This group is chartered to work on eight documents:
>> 
>> (1) A Standards Track document specifying how to apply JSON-structured 
>> integrity protection to data, including (but not limited to) JSON data 
>> structures, using a compact URL-safe representation.  "Integrity protection" 
>> includes public-key digital signatures as well as symmetric-key MACs.
>> 
>> (2) A Standards Track document specifying how to apply a JSON-structured 
>> encryption to data, including (but not limited to) JSON data structures, 
>> using a compact URL-safe representation.
>> 
>> (3) A Standards Track document specifying how to encode public keys as 
>> JSON-structured objects.
>> 
>> (4) A Standards Track document specifying algorithms and algorithm 
>> identifiers, including mandatory-to-implement algorithms for the previous 
>> three documents.
>> 
>> (5) A Standards Track document specifying how to apply JSON-structured 
>> integrity protection to data, including (but not limited to) JSON data 
>> structures, using a JSON representation supporting multiple recipients.  
>> This document will build upon the concepts and structures in (1).
>> 
>> (6) A Standards Track document specifying how to apply a JSON-structured 
>> encryption to data, including (but not limited to) JSON data structures, 
>> using a JSON representation supporting multiple recipients.  This document 
>> will build upon the concepts and structures in (2).
>> 
>> (7) A Standards Track document specifying how to encode private and 
>> symmetric keys as JSON-structured objects.  This document will build upon 
>> the concepts and structures in (3).
>> 
>> (8) A Standards Track application document specifying a means of protecting 
>> private and symmetric keys via encryption.  This document will build upon 
>> the concepts and structures in (2) and (7).  This document may register 
>> additional algorithms in registries defined by (4).
>> 
>> The working group may decide to address combinations of these goals in 
>> consolidated document(s), in which case the concrete milestones for these 
>> goals will be satisfied by the consolidated document(s).
>> 
>> Goals and Milestones
>> 
>> Jan 2012              Submit compact JSON object integrity document (1) as a 
>> WG item.
>> 
>> Jan 2012              Submit compact JSON object encryption document (2) as 
>> a WG item.
>> 
>> Jan 2012              Submit JSON key format document (3) as a WG item.
>> 
>> Jan 2012              Submit JSON algorithm document (4) as a WG item.
>> 
>> Feb 2013              Start Working Group Last Call on compact JSON object 
>> integrity document (1).
>> 
>> Feb 2013              Start Working Group Last Call on compact JSON object 
>> encryption document (2).
>> 
>> Feb 2013              Start Working Group Last Call on JSON key format 
>> document (3).
>> 
>> Feb 2013              Start Working Group Last Call on JSON algorithm 
>> document (4).
>> 
>> Mar 2013             Submit JSON object integrity document (1) to IESG for 
>> consideration as Standards Track document.
>> 
>> Mar 2013             Submit JSON object encryption document (2) to IESG for 
>> consideration as Standards Track document.
>> 
>> Mar 2013             Submit JSON key format document (3) to IESG for 
>> consideration as Standards Track document.
>> 
>> Mar 2013             Submit JSON algorithm document (4) to IESG for 
>> consideration as Standards Track document.
>> 
>> Mar 2013             Submit multi-recipient JSON object integrity document 
>> (5) as a WG item.
>> 
>> Mar 2013             Submit multi-recipient JSON object encryption document 
>> (6) as a WG item.
>> 
>> Mar 2013             Submit JSON private and symmetric key document (7) as a 
>> WG item.
>> 
>> Mar 2013             Submit JSON key protection application document (8) as 
>> a WG item.
>> 
>> Jun 2013              Start Working Group Last Call on multi-recipient JSON 
>> object integrity document (5).
>> 
>> Jun 2013              Start Working Group Last Call on multi-recipient JSON 
>> object encryption document (6).
>> 
>> Jun 2013              Start Working Group Last Call on JSON private and 
>> symmetric key document (7).
>> 
>> Jun 2013              Start Working Group Last Call on JSON key protection 
>> application document (8).
>> 
>> Jul 2013               Submit multi-recipient JSON object integrity document 
>> (5) to IESG for consideration as Standards Track document.
>> 
>> Jul 2013               Submit multi-recipient JSON object encryption 
>> document (6) to IESG for consideration as Standards Track document.
>> 
>> Jul 2013               Submit JSON private and symmetric key document (7) to 
>> IESG for consideration as Standards Track document.
>> 
>> Jul 2013               Submit JSON key protection application document (8) 
>> to IESG for consideration as Standards Track document.
>> 
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