Let me second this important point that Axel made. It's far from free for
people in many companies to be able to join a new working group. I know, for
instance, that the Microsoft process to do so involves business, legal, and
organizational reviews involving many people and a substantial amount of time.
In this case, given that draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves is producing a
JOSE-specific result, I would far prefer that it be done in the JOSE working
group, both for consistency reasons and to expedite people's participation, and
thus the end result.
Thanks,
-- Mike
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 6:50 AM
To: Mike Jones <[email protected]>; [email protected];
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Subject: RE: [jose] FW: Fwd: New Version Notification for
draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves-00.txt
Participating in new groups is not always easy for employees of large companies.
JOSE and CURDLE are needed on a different level.
JOSE is more practical, while CURDLE is more fundamental...
Ad 4) I prefer to keep this in JOSE.
From: jose [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Jones
Sent: Donnerstag, 10. Dezember 2015 04:24
To: Jim Schaad; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [jose] FW: Fwd: New Version Notification for
draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves-00.txt
Replies inline below...
-----Original Message-----
From: jose [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Schaad
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 11:51 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [jose] FW: Fwd: New Version Notification for
draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves-00.txt
The chairs and AD have not yet had a discussion about this draft. I would
like to get some input from the group before we do so.
We have been trying to shut the group down for some time, but drafts keep
slowly dribbling in. As long as the group believes it has the energy to deal
with these drafts we can keep the WG open to deal with them. However, for this
document there is a second option that can be used for this document. There is
a new CURDLES group which is designed to deal with this group (the group should
finish forming by the end of the year). We could finishing closing the JOSE
group and punt this over to that group to work on.
The input I would like to get would be:
1. Do you believe that, if this document is provided, you would be
implementing this in the near future?
It would depend upon application demand for these curves when used with JOSE,
which is yet to be determined.
2. Do you plan to participate in the CURDLES group if this document is moved
from here to there?
Yes, if necessary
3. If we are going to adopt this document, would you intend to review and
comment on the draft?
Yes - definitely. I already have reviewed and commented on previously drafts.
4. Do you have a preference between JOSE and CRUDLES for dealing with this
document?
I prefer JOSE, since there is already an existing set of highly engaged experts
in this group who are familiar with the reasons for the choices made in the
JOSE specs. Doing this in JOSE will help ensure that the result is consistent
with the rest of the choices made in JWA [RFC 7518].
Jim
Thanks,
-- Mike
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jose [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ilari Liusvaara
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 6:42 AM
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: [jose] Fwd: New Version Notification for
draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-
> curves-00.txt
>
> Submitted this...
>
> Regarding JOSE vs. CURDLE, I believe JOSE has priority (being existant
primary
> WG).
>
> (Changes from last circulated version include note about possible
> change
(using
> just one signature algo for all OKP) and adding draft number in order
> for submission to go through).
>
> ----- Forwarded message from
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> -----
>
> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 05:58:08 -0800
> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> To: Ilari Liusvaara
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: New Version Notification for
draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves-00.txt
>
>
> A new version of I-D, draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves-00.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Ilari Liusvaara and posted to the
> IETF repository.
>
> Name: draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves
> Revision: 00
> Title: CFRG curves and signatures in JOSE
> Document date: 2015-12-09
> Group: Individual Submission
> Pages: 13
> URL:
https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-
> curves-00.txt
> Status:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves/
> Htmlized:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves-00
>
>
> Abstract:
> This document defines how to use curves and algorithms from IRTF CFRG
> elliptic curves work (Diffie-Hellman and signatures) in JOSE.
>
>
>
>
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
submission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>
> The IETF Secretariat
>
>
> ----- End forwarded message -----
>
>
> -Ilari
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