+1 Apparently we have a case where a suitable JOSE representation is sought for a new spec of elliptic curves. So JOSE looks like the natural place to do this.
Thanks, Vladimir On 21/12/15 17:24, Mike Jones wrote: > Let me second this important point that Axel made. It's far from free for > people in many companies to be able to join a new working group. I know, for > instance, that the Microsoft process to do so involves business, legal, and > organizational reviews involving many people and a substantial amount of time. > > In this case, given that draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves is producing a > JOSE-specific result, I would far prefer that it be done in the JOSE working > group, both for consistency reasons and to expedite people's participation, > and thus the end result. > > Thanks, > -- Mike > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 6:50 AM > To: Mike Jones <[email protected]>; [email protected]; > [email protected] > Subject: RE: [jose] FW: Fwd: New Version Notification for > draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves-00.txt > > Participating in new groups is not always easy for employees of large > companies. > JOSE and CURDLE are needed on a different level. > JOSE is more practical, while CURDLE is more fundamental... > > Ad 4) I prefer to keep this in JOSE. > > From: jose [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Jones > Sent: Donnerstag, 10. Dezember 2015 04:24 > To: Jim Schaad; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [jose] FW: Fwd: New Version Notification for > draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves-00.txt > > > Replies inline below... > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jose [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Schaad > Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 11:51 AM > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [jose] FW: Fwd: New Version Notification for > draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves-00.txt > > > > The chairs and AD have not yet had a discussion about this draft. I would > > like to get some input from the group before we do so. > > > > We have been trying to shut the group down for some time, but drafts keep > slowly dribbling in. As long as the group believes it has the energy to deal > with these drafts we can keep the WG open to deal with them. However, for > this document there is a second option that can be used for this document. > There is a new CURDLES group which is designed to deal with this group (the > group should finish forming by the end of the year). We could finishing > closing the JOSE group and punt this over to that group to work on. > > > > The input I would like to get would be: > > > > 1. Do you believe that, if this document is provided, you would be > implementing this in the near future? > > > > It would depend upon application demand for these curves when used with JOSE, > which is yet to be determined. > > > > 2. Do you plan to participate in the CURDLES group if this document is moved > from here to there? > > > > Yes, if necessary > > > > 3. If we are going to adopt this document, would you intend to review and > comment on the draft? > > > > Yes - definitely. I already have reviewed and commented on previously drafts. > > > > 4. Do you have a preference between JOSE and CRUDLES for dealing with this > document? > > > > I prefer JOSE, since there is already an existing set of highly engaged > experts in this group who are familiar with the reasons for the choices made > in the JOSE specs. Doing this in JOSE will help ensure that the result is > consistent with the rest of the choices made in JWA [RFC 7518]. > > > > Jim > > > > Thanks, > > -- Mike > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: jose [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ilari Liusvaara >> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 6:42 AM >> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: [jose] Fwd: New Version Notification for > draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg- > >> curves-00.txt >> Submitted this... >> Regarding JOSE vs. CURDLE, I believe JOSE has priority (being existant > primary > >> WG). >> (Changes from last circulated version include note about possible >> change > (using > >> just one signature algo for all OKP) and adding draft number in order >> for submission to go through). >> ----- Forwarded message from >> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ----- >> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 05:58:08 -0800 >> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> To: Ilari Liusvaara >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> Subject: New Version Notification for > draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves-00.txt > >> A new version of I-D, draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves-00.txt >> has been successfully submitted by Ilari Liusvaara and posted to the >> IETF repository. >> Name: draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves >> Revision: 00 >> Title: CFRG curves and signatures in JOSE >> Document date: 2015-12-09 >> Group: Individual Submission >> Pages: 13 >> URL: > https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg- > >> curves-00.txt >> Status: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves/ > >> Htmlized: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves-00 > >> Abstract: >> This document defines how to use curves and algorithms from IRTF CFRG >> elliptic curves work (Diffie-Hellman and signatures) in JOSE. >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >> The IETF Secretariat >> ----- End forwarded message ----- >> -Ilari >> _______________________________________________ >> jose mailing list >> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jose > > > _______________________________________________ > > jose mailing list > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jose > > > > _______________________________________________ > jose mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jose -- Vladimir Dzhuvinov :: [email protected]
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