I like Samuel Erdtman's idea of starting with an open-source
implementation.  If I see one of those, with a convincing set of test
cases, I'd be inclined to make the case for spinning up a working group.

The argument isn't "Would it be useful?" it's "Can it be done?" So, start
by proving it can.

On Mon., Oct. 29, 2018, 1:33 a.m. Anders Rundgren <
[email protected] wrote:

> On 2018-10-28 21:32, Samuel Erdtman wrote:
> > In my opinion we can create a good canonicalization format for JSON to
> be used to sign cleartext JSON.
> >
> > As can be seen on this list many are skeptical so my approach would be
> to publish easy to use open source implementations.
>
> Yes, and part of that is supplying test data like:
> https://github.com/cyberphone/json-canonicalization/tree/master/testdata
> The Microsoft folks developing "Chakra" (their JS engine) already use the
> 100 million reference values.
>
>
> > If we do that and there is real interest then we might be able to
> convince people here about the need. In line with this ambition I have done
> the JS and Java publications. This might also show there is no actual
> interest and then that is also an outcome.
>
> Well, another part of the standards puzzle is getting early work into real
> products and services.
>
> FWIW, I'm personally involved in a couple of efforts using clear text JSON
> signatures:
> - Saturn, an open payment authorization scheme based on an enhanced "four
> corner" trust model which aims giving banks an upper hand against Apple
> Pay, Google Pay, PayPal, etc.
> - Mobile ID, an open, PKI-based, multi-issuer mobile authentication and
> signature solution for e-governments.
>
> Regards,
> Anders
>
> > Best regards
> > //Samuel
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 8:44 AM Carsten Bormann <[email protected] <mailto:
> [email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >     On Oct 22, 2018, at 04:47, David Waite <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >      >
> >      > intermittent interoperability failures until a new language
> runtime release which revises the numerical print and parse functions
> >
> >     Note that this is not a theoretical concern, as CVE-2010-4476 and
> CVE-2010-4645 amply demonstrate, nicely underscored by the re-occurrence of
> the latter in
> https://www.exploringbinary.com/php-converts-2-2250738585072012e-308-incorrectly/
> >
> >     Grüße, Carsten
> >
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