I am having a potential terminology problem.  When I read the term Counter
Signature, I am used to this meaning that I am signing a signature,
potentially with some additional information.   I am not sure that this is
what you have going on below.  Are these signatures "nested" or "parallel"
or "on the previous signature"?

Jim


> -----Original Message-----
> From: jose <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Anders Rundgren
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2018 11:50 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [jose] JWS Counter Signatures
> 
> Counter signatures were actually the major "inspiration" for Canonical
JSON
> since JWS based dittos are hard to debug and document due to the deep
> nesting of Base64Url encoded objects but it is still fully doable.
> 
> However, in a system which I will present at Trustech 2018, I came up with
a
> counter signature scheme where JOSE simply put ran out of gas.
> 
> https://cyberphone.github.io/doc/payments/payment-decentralization-scheme-
> 1a.pdf
> 
> In this system (very briefly):
> 1. a Merchant creates a Payment Request and sends it to the Payer for
> authorization 2. the Payer authorizes the Payment Request with his/her
> signature key.  The signed authorization data includes a hash of the
Payment
> Request 3. the Payer (for privacy reasons) encrypts the authorization data
and
> returns it to the Merchant together with an unencrypted URL pointing to
the
> Payer's bank 4. the Merchant sends the original Payment Request + the
> encrypted Payer authorization data to the Payer's banks for fulfillment 5.
the
> Payer's bank decrypts and validates the authorization data, including
verifying
> that the hash of the Merchant-supplied Payment Request matches the hash in
> the authorization data
> 
> It seems to me that a JOSE based design would have to be architected in a
> fundamentally different way.
> 
> Anders
> 
> 
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