That is my understanding as well.   I really hope we can have a meeting / BOF / 
side meeting / other in Prague to talk about ways forward. 


Thanks,
Bret
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> On Nov 23, 2018, at 12:50 AM, Anders Rundgren <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Counter signatures were actually the major "inspiration" for Canonical JSON 
> since JWS based dittos are hard to debug and document due to the deep nesting 
> of Base64Url encoded objects but it is still fully doable.
> 
> However, in a system which I will present at Trustech 2018, I came up with a 
> counter signature scheme where JOSE simply put ran out of gas.
> 
> https://cyberphone.github.io/doc/payments/payment-decentralization-scheme-1a.pdf
> 
> In this system (very briefly):
> 1. a Merchant creates a Payment Request and sends it to the Payer for 
> authorization
> 2. the Payer authorizes the Payment Request with his/her signature key.  The 
> signed authorization data includes a hash of the Payment Request
> 3. the Payer (for privacy reasons) encrypts the authorization data and 
> returns it to the Merchant together with an unencrypted URL pointing to the 
> Payer's bank
> 4. the Merchant sends the original Payment Request + the encrypted Payer 
> authorization data to the Payer's banks for fulfillment
> 5. the Payer's bank decrypts and validates the authorization data, including 
> verifying that the hash of the Merchant-supplied Payment Request matches the 
> hash in the authorization data
> 
> It seems to me that a JOSE based design would have to be architected in a 
> fundamentally different way.
> 
> Anders
> 
> 
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