On Sat, 5 Mar 2011, hbogner wrote:
We lost some new OSM mappers because of this.
If the people are discouraged that easily then they would have gone soon anyway. Have you ever got a message/email from someone who thinks that you "destroyed" his work due to a simple modification. The validator is harmless compared to this. My father who does a lot more than I do gets these messages constantly and I got them a lot when I was more active.
The time for basic mapping is over (at least in Germany and central europe) and tools like the validator are more and more important to get a useable database. JOSM's goal is not to have to ultimate freedom for a mapper. JOSM allows you to do nearly everything, but it does not encourage you to do so. The goal is a usable database following some unique standards. And it must be easier for a user to follow the standards than not to do it.
Maybe in some cases the tests aren't perfectly correct, but this is to be expected as automatic detection of these topics is a very complicated issue and errors can't be prevented. When you find such problems, report them properly and they will be fixed when possible.
If I judge this issue based on the ticket reports we get, than we have only minor problems with this. And half of the reports ask to add additional checks and not to remove some.
So a note to these of you trying to convince me that we have a major problem with validator: This opinion does not match the statistical data that we have. Especially as validator had >80% installation count even before it moved into core.
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