What Vimal and Mary shared is correct we need not spend our time and energy to
discuss others mistakes. Whether it is bishop or a neighbor we can't judge them
for what they are doing. Our Binoy might not intended to criticize anybody when he
forward that message. One good thing is Binoy is reading some Christian magazines
and getting informations, good benoy, But when you forward any mails pls think 2 times
because our Joynet it a very big group now.... we dont know it may some times
misleading some of our members.
:) then Benoy one thing where did u got that heading ???
Ok guys Christmas season, what are the plans for celebrating Christmas???? Any ideas
for e-celebration of Christmas???
Love, Suresh
Colombo, Sri Lanka
At 12:05 PM 11/22/02 +0530, you wrote:
Hello all,
I aggry with Ms : Mary Jacobs. It is our call to reform church but that
reformation does not come by criticising the church or giving head to
untoward critisism. Most of us expect high standards from our priest and
ofcourse we must do so. But we always undermine the fact they are also human
beings like us. What have they got that we haven't ? What they lack that we
have ? We all have equal reward in the glory of christ. remeber the fable of
the farmer who employed workers at differen times of the day and gave them
all the same reward.( I can't imagine sharing the same reward as that of
st:paul when i'm there, this always baffles me:) ).
Let's not undermine the fact that they are humans when we critisice them nor
attribute them with super human credentials. When i think of fathers the
first thing that always comes to mind is the sacrifice that they have made
for the church and for the chirst in disowning a life long companionship.
Have we ever tried to look into the life of our priest where some leave in
utter lonliness and despair but still strugle to keep their commitment to
the church. Have we seen old priest harrowing there time with no one to
share with. Inspite of all this they struggle to keep their commitment to
christ and church.
And when at times they fail or seems to fail we all pound on them to tear
them apart. How cruel it for us to do that. And who is the one who shout at
them. The very people who enjoy all the pleasures of life and still in their
greediness look out for 'greener pastures' (sorry i don't want to sound
accusing). Just tink of each one of us who are raised and are in the family
but still find difficult keep our holiness and commitment to GOD.
How greater must be their struggles in comparison with us.
Each time we laity open our mouth to critisice the clergy remeber that they
ar not likes but facing stonger struggles and are attacked more powerfully
by satan 'coz he know when he gets a priest he can take along with him a
whole parish.
So it becomes our duty to pray for them more and more rather than standing
back and criticising them.
Remember they give birth to jesus every day in holy mass
Remember when they say ur sins are forgiven our sins are forgiven
And Remember this is what they are called for and these things happen not
'coz of the standard of their life but by the anoinment from God.
WARNING !!!!! (I really mean this)
Thing twice before criticising a preist the anointed of the mos holy ONE, ur
r confronting god.
ERRATA
This is not directed towards any individual but just expressing my anguish
on this matter.
Let's all pray that god gives us more wisdom to appreciate priesthood and
love our priests.
God bless u all
vimal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JOYnet] naughty Bishop !!
Hi Friends,
Forgive me but I don't think we should pay much attention to articles such
as these. While it may be true that this has happened, it does us no good
(nor the church for that matter) to read & dwell on these types of matters.
By doing that, we are only feeding into the media's gross invitation to mock
the Catholic church. Perhaps this priest did make a mistake but who are we
to judge. This whole incident is not relevant to our spiritual growth or to
our faith and morale as Catholics in any way. I'm sure the powers that be
in Rome fuelled by the wisdom of the Holy Father will resolve this issue and
we need not think, worry or talk about it.
I mean no offense to anyone but please in the future, let's really think
about what we're posting. If it's not to anyone's benefit or advantage (in
terms of spiritual growth) then perhaps we should think twice before we send
it to everyone, especially with a title such as this. Thanks for listening
and God bless,......-Mary (Calgary, Canada)
>From: "Sangeet Binoy (REPORTER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "mail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [JOYnet] naughty Bishop !!
>Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2002 19:00:00 +0530
>
>Shamed Zambian archbishop celebrating first Mass since marriage scandal
>
> CASAMARI, Italy _ A Zambian archbishop who embarrassed the Catholic
>Church by getting married last year, only to reject the union and then
>disappear from view, was taking a major step back into the fold Thursday by
>celebrating his first public Mass since the scandal.
> Archbishop Emmanuel Milingo was married to South Korean acupuncturist
>Maria Sung in a group ceremony led by the Rev. Sun Myung Moon last year,
>but
>subsequently he rejected the marriage on a request from Pope John Paul II.
>He
>then vanished from public view, to the despair of his wife.
> Sung launched a desperate campaign to learn the fate of Milingo, saying
>the Vatican was holding him against his will. However, the Church announced
>in September that Milingo had spent a voluntary yearlong spiritual retreat
>in
>Argentina.
> Last week, the Vatican released videotape showing Milingo arriving at a
>new home in Zagarolo, 30 kilometers (about 19 miles) southeast of Rome.
> He was celebrating Mass on Thursday in an abbey in Casamari, about 100
>kilometers (62 miles) southeast of the capital.
> A top Vatican official, Monsignor Tarcisio Bertone, told Vatican Radio
>last week that Milingo had reconciled with the Church and had agreed to
>take
>a quiet ministry away from too much publicity.
> Milingo caused controversy in the Church long before his marriage by
>conducting religious ceremonies that troubled some Vatican officials.
> He was summoned to Rome in 1983 after resigning from his post as
>archbishop of Lusaka, Zambia, for performing faith healing and exorcisms.
>Large crowds of people then flocked to Rome seeking cures from Milingo, and
>the Vatican removed him from his post there.
> ``I'm not able to judge whether it's true that he carried out miracles.
>But so many people are attracted to this and believe in him,'' Franco
>Mazzoli, 48, said Thursday, as he was waiting outside Casamari's
>11th-century
>abbey for the ceremony to begin. ``If someone can influence people so
>positively they have to be respected.''
> Bertone, however, told an Italian newspaper that from now on Milingo's
>ceremonies would only be traditional ones.
> ``As everyone will see starting this afternoon, he will no longer
>perform
>faith-healing prayers during Mass and won't perform exorcisms in front of
>the
>faithful, but only in private places,'' Bertone told Corriere della Sera.
> In Thursday's interview, Bertone also said that the archbishop was
>scheduled to go back to Zambia on Dec. 4-19.
> ``Monsignor Milingo's return to his homeland has specific purposes:
>Meeting with bishops, which is a gesture of reconciliation, and meeting
>with
>his family,'' Bertone said, adding Milingo would also visit two charitable
>institutions he founded there.
> Milingo recently conducted a long interview with an Italian journalist
>that was published as a book called ``The Fish Fished from the Mud.'' In
>it,
>Milingo said he had ``wanted to provoke shock'' by marrying Sung after he
>had
>been removed from his Vatican post.
> He said the removal left him feeling isolated and that his requests to
>meet with the pope back then ``were lost in the ceremonial bureaucracy'' of
>the Vatican. Milingo said followers of the Rev. Moon approached him and
>that
>he saw a ``solution to my state of isolation.''
> Milingo had not appeared in public following the scandal, although he
>spoke via TV linkup on a late-night Italian talk show on Sept. 30. In that
>interview, he indicated that he might like to resume his faith healing, and
>insisted that there was nothing untoward about his practices.
> ``We have some rites than seem like magic, but they are not like
>that,''
>he said.
>
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