John,

Following this conversation, I remembered that someone told me that
jQuery was avoiding extending native objects since it's very
beginning, and there was a discussion about it involving you and other
developers... if you have, can you put a reference/link to that
discussion here, to read what were the opinions about it? There were
discussions about the same subject at my work place...

Thanks!

Diogo



On Feb 24, 7:17 pm, John Resig <[email protected]> wrote:
> Umm... I think you may be confused. He's talking about the cases where
> some other code on a site modifies the Object.prototype (not jQuery -
> some other code). It's jQuery's responsibility to try and work in the
> most situations, regardless of the outside code (even if it's native
> code extensions, like we see in other libraries like Prototype and
> MooTools).
>
> jQuery is not - and will never - add code to a native object.
>
> --John
>
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Andrea Giammarchi
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > So I guess I got everything wrong ... you are planning to implement
> > hasOwnProperty in every for in ... bad choice, imho, people do not need to
> > use Object.prototype when $.each(o) instead of o.each() is basically the
> > same number of characters/speed.
>
> > Code elegance to ruin performances?
>
> > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:45 PM, John Resig <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> Marcus -
>
> >> This is the current ticket that I'm tracking on the issue:
> >>http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/2721
>
> >> I currently have it on the 1.4 roadmap -  but if you already have a
> >> patch, I would love to see it (please attach it to the above ticket,
> >> as well) - perhaps we can get something landed sooner, rather than
> >> later.
>
> >> --John
>
> >> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Marcus Pope <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > Of the 4 total bugs found when searching for hasOwnProperty, each one
> >> > reports that jQuery doesn't support object prototype extensions
> >> > because of some factor.  In the most recent case a bug was closed
> >> > invalid with the following explanation:
>
> >> > "jQuery does not support changes to Object.prototype. The additional
> >> > Object properties become visible to for-in loops and breaks any code
> >> > that uses them. "
>
> >> > After going through and editing the 30 or so references to unsafe
> >> > for..in loops I was able to compile my application which extensively
> >> > uses custom functions on the object prototype.  I guess I'm confused
> >> > as to why this cannot (or will not) be integrated into the jquery
> >> > code.
>
> >> > I'll admit I'm not a jQuery expert, but I couldn't find any code using
> >> > inherited objects in the for..in iterations.  Maybe it has something
> >> > to do with jquery pluggins.
>
> >> > Of course my solution is to modify the codebase every time a new
> >> > version is released, but this seems pointless if making the iterations
> >> > safe would resolve the problem altogether.
>
> >> > Just curious, any info welcome.
>
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Marcus
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