Yes it sounds like Microsoft will not include a JVM in Windows XP. However,
this does not mean that java will not run on XP. In fact it will probably
run better. Most of the major PC vendors have already committed to including
the latest JVM from SUN in their products. This means that we will have
better JVM support than before. Also, any java application that ships will
install a JVM if one is not detected. Also #2, all of the server side code
that runs with JRun and other app servers will not be affected. The only
loosers will be the consumers that want to visit web sites that use java
applets. They will have to download a JVM plug in to get the applets to run.
Not to big of an issue, but unfortunate.
D
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Jacobs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 9:50 AM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: Newbie question/Debate
With the next version of Windows, Windows XP, I believe that Microsoft will
not be supporting Java. Can anyone confirm if this is true, and if so, what
effect this will have as a whole on Java. Their concept of platform
independance is pretty much shot and they would be completly useless to a
very large Microsoft audience.
-----Original Message-----
From: James Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 10:38 AM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: Newbie question/Debate
Umm....thats not quite correct. With .NET I can use any language I want,
as long as it has a MSIL compiler. If I want to use Java, I can use
Java. If I want to write an entire asp.net web app in C++ I can. Am I
locked in if I choose to use C++? I can use any language I want. On top
of that there are efforts underway for porting the .NET CLR (common
language runtime) to other platforms for true platform independence.
Pretty groovy huh? :)
james
-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie Comeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 10:28 AM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: Newbie question/Debate
Good question.
With Microsoft, your locked into Microsoft technologies. With Java, you
can
select any platform you want. Also, if you move your platform, there is
little to no rewriting of code (I'm talking J2EE platform). You can go
to
any server that is J2EE certified and just move your platform over.
Another advantage is that it's evolving and merging with all the new
technologies out there. This may be more of a long-term benefit.
As far as running as a platform/server language, it has a head-start
over
Microsoft. Microsoft has not released it's .Net yet, has it? But J2EE
has
been out since December, 1999.
There are disadvantages with Java. It basically uses only the java
language. It works with other languages, but it is language-neutral.
As a Java developer, your skills are more transferable. If your a
Microsoft
developer, your locked into their skills.
Jackie
On Monday, July 23, 2001 10:09 PM, Bert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
wrote:
> I know a lot of companies are using Java , Ejb , Oracle
> and Jsp but what are real the main benefits besides being cross
platform
> than using Asp and Com,Com+ or Asp.net and C# . I know these are
Microsoft
> only platform but what is the real advantage as to using Java in the
real
> world?
>
>
>
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