methinks you missed the tech news over the past 6 months or so - microsoft's
.net is supposed to follow the same creed as java, only you have a choice of
many languages INCLUDING java. in fact, c# (the flag ship of .net) seems to
be a superior language to java (even if they did rip off the entire java
language and add enhancements).
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Haseltine, Celeste [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 11:16 AM
> To: JRun-Talk
> Subject: RE: Newbie question/Debate
>
>
> James,
>
> Technically you can use a VC++ class in a Java program, and a
> Java class in
> a VC++ program, but ONLY on a Windows platform. Which in
> essance breaks the
> Java creed of "write once, run anywhere". You can't say that
> about the MS
> products. The biggest difference, in my opinion, is that MS uses the
> concept of the "windows registry" to find external classes,
> where as Java
> does NOT recognize the concept of a "registry". Java finds
> it's external
> classes via the operating systems classpath and/or importing
> of "packages".
>
> Even though you can use VC++ classes in Java, and vice versa,
> it is a real
> pain in the rear to do so. To work around the "windows
> registry concept",
> you can use a Java class in VC++ by "registering" it on a
> windows machine
> using a utility program that is on Sun's site (I can't
> remember the name of
> the utility off the top of my head), and then calling the
> methods of the
> Java class. You can also use a VC++ class in Java by
> creating a Java class
> file that declares the "native" C++ method(s) using the
> native keyword, then
> after compiling the class file you create a header file using
> the javah
> command, and then you create a VC++ dll using the header file
> created in the
> above step to implement the native method(s) declared in the
> Java class. As
> I said, a real pain in the rear. I've used Java in ASP
> pages, and I have
> used MS products in JSP pages, but because of the
> difficulties in getting
> things to "work" together, I prefer to stay solely in Java, unless I
> absolutely HAVE to "integrate" into a MS system, or use a MS tool.
>
> Celeste
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 9:38 AM
> To: JRun-Talk
> Subject: RE: Newbie question/Debate
>
>
> Umm....thats not quite correct. With .NET I can use any
> language I want,
> as long as it has a MSIL compiler. If I want to use Java, I can use
> Java. If I want to write an entire asp.net web app in C++ I can. Am I
> locked in if I choose to use C++? I can use any language I
> want. On top
> of that there are efforts underway for porting the .NET CLR (common
> language runtime) to other platforms for true platform independence.
> Pretty groovy huh? :)
>
> james
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jackie Comeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 10:28 AM
> To: JRun-Talk
> Subject: RE: Newbie question/Debate
>
> Good question.
>
> With Microsoft, your locked into Microsoft technologies. With
> Java, you
> can
> select any platform you want. Also, if you move your
> platform, there is
> little to no rewriting of code (I'm talking J2EE platform). You can go
> to
> any server that is J2EE certified and just move your platform over.
>
> Another advantage is that it's evolving and merging with all the new
> technologies out there. This may be more of a long-term benefit.
>
> As far as running as a platform/server language, it has a head-start
> over
> Microsoft. Microsoft has not released it's .Net yet, has it? But J2EE
> has
> been out since December, 1999.
>
> There are disadvantages with Java. It basically uses only the java
> language. It works with other languages, but it is language-neutral.
>
> As a Java developer, your skills are more transferable. If your a
> Microsoft
> developer, your locked into their skills.
>
> Jackie
>
> On Monday, July 23, 2001 10:09 PM, Bert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> wrote:
> > I know a lot of companies are using Java , Ejb , Oracle
> > and Jsp but what are real the main benefits besides being cross
> platform
> > than using Asp and Com,Com+ or Asp.net and C# . I know these are
> Microsoft
> > only platform but what is the real advantage as to using Java in the
> real
> > world?
> >
> >
> >
>
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