While we have the ear of two who've used JBuilder, can anyone speak to
whether someone doing simple Jrun development (JSP,
servlets/javabeans/custom tags and only a little EJB) would benefit from the
tool? I mean, I fear some tools would lean toward their heritage of building
java apps and applets, which in many ways is quite different from servlets
(less so beans and perhaps custom tags) and certainly different from JSP.

So, would you recommend JBuilder as offering that much over Studio? And how
about JBuilder personal vs pro vs enterprise? And how about 4,5,5, and 6?
All variants of those are available on E-bay at reduced price ranging from a
couple hundred to a couple thousand dollars (and the retail prices of the
current versions are of course much higher).

Just curious if anyone can share practical advice to those who may not be in
a position to just shell out big bucks when the value of a tool is unclear.
Yes, the specs say the product offers lots for servlet/jsp developers, but
is that value all that much over the elegant simplicity of Studio.
Admittedly, Studio isn't the best editor for pure java editor, but it
suffices. I guess the question is, does JBuilder (or indeed Forte, or any
other editor) really offer that much over Studio? I'm sure in some respects,
they can't match Studio (tag editors, tag insight, RDS database processing,
RDS debugging, etc.)


/charlie

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Phelps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:09 PM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: debugging Jrun 3.0 with JBuilder 4.0EE


I was the one who wrote the article you mention.  I see exactly the same
problem when I debug.  I'm not sure why it happens and I have never spent
enough time to see if there is a better way of doing things.  Even when the
debugging works, I usually find it so slow to load that I can't stand to use
it.

There may very well be a better configuration that will give you what you
want but I have not found it yet.

Our solution at my current assignment has been to create a flexible logging
API that allows us to monitor everything that happens inside the
application.  It is not as nice as a propper debugger for finding bugs but
it is great for monitoring the application and providing automated responses
to problems that occur.  For example, we can specify that certain types of
errors or exceptions will trigger emails to the system administrator.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 11:27 AM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: debugging Jrun 3.0 with JBuilder 4.0EE


All,

I'm trying to debug my code in Jrun 3.0 sp2 using JBuilder EE 4.0.
Doing this, I follow the instructions in
http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cfm?ID=20830
<http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cfm?ID=20830&Method=Full>
&Method=Full
and it works but...

I noted that after I performed a "step into" or "step over" operation in my
code the connection between IDE and the server is loosed.
Even after use a "-debug" option for the server in this way:   -start
c:/Allaire/JRun/servers/default jrun.rootDir=c:/Allaire/JRun -debug
connection is loosed. So I have to restart the server again and again :(.

So, I need to know if there is some tricky in order to mainting the
debugging session.

I found a work around to debugg but is too tedious:
I have to set many break points and perform the trace jumping between each
break point using "resume program (F9)" operation
and in this way CONNECTION IS NOT LOOSED.

Is really hard to debug in this way.

Any help will be really appreciate it

Regards,

Paul Sanchez
Software Engineer
Objeq
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