Is this GUI Deployment tool you mention free?  Where can it be downloaded?

My ears pop up when somebody mentions free tools.

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Stirling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 12:15 PM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: JRun 4 beta 2 and OSX


Couple things I would add...

1. Kawa is discontinued.

2. UltraDev 4 doesn't hide the code if you don't want it to.  You can use it
in design, code, or design/code.  I usually use it (for HTML coding) in
design/code, which is awesome -- you let it draw tables and resize things,
then go in and tweak the code as needed or just write in the easy stuff.  I
don't use it or any IDE for JSP though (use gvim).

3. We have integrated our GUI Deployment Tool with JBuilder Personal ( which
is free ), so you can develop EJB's easily with Borland and JRun.  We are
updating this tool to support EJB 2.0 as part of the JRun 4 release cycle.

Scott Stirling
Macromedia

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Drew Falkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> Russ-
>
> Macromedia has three Java IDE's (using the term loosely):
>
> 1.  Dreamweaver UltraDev JRun
> 2.  JRun Studio
> 3.  Kawa
>
> They are all different. UltraDev basically hides the actual
> code (you can
> look at it, but it is mostly autogenerated) - and it only
> generates JSP
> code. There are no real debugging or compiling features. JRun
> Studio uses
> the HomeSite/CF Studio interface, so you have tag insight and
> wizards and
> dialogs for JRun custom and JSP tags. Again, JRun Studio is a
> JSP tool, but
> with some extras like starting/stopping JRun servers, Remote
> Development
> features and more - aimed at actually writing JSP code. It
> has debugging
> features, but good luck getting them to work properly (sorry if this
> offends, but it is true).  Kawa is a more typical Java IDE,
> with integrated
> debugging and compiling and a host of other features for developing
> Enterprise JavaBeans and writing Java classes.
>
> The next question to ask is if the Macromedia tools are the
> ones you want to
> use. Borland JBuilder is probably the most-used Java IDE, but
> the enterprise
> edition, which includes support for many of the J2EE APIs,
> deployment, etc.
> is very expensive. You should try some out and see what you
> feel comfortable
> with. Of course, if you are writing JSP, there is no reason
> you can't use CF
> Studio of Homesite (unless you want integrated debugging...
>
>

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