I'd rather not use another level of logging abstraction - just seems like overkill to me. Swapping out different logging frameworks is typically just a matter of search/replace. And the whole point of SLF4J and commons-logging IS to be the level of abstraction that allows you to swap out log implementations. So why add another on top?

If someone wants to use SLF4J right now, they can simply use SLF4Js bridging APIs that masquerade as commons-logging but under the hood use SLF4J. Then when we migrate over to SLF4J, they can simply remove the bridge jar files:
http://www.slf4j.org/legacy.html


On Jul 10, 2008, at 3:37 PM, Les Hazlewood wrote:

Hi all,

I was contacted via private email yesterday about a company that wishes to use JSecurity in their product, but they were concerned about our use of
Commons Logging, citing the now familiar classloader issues.  It was
interesting timing because of my proposal to use SLF4J last week.

This gent's recommendation was that we have our own (very minimal) Log
interface that we would use in our classes instead of Commons Logging. He
brought up a number of cases of difficulty implementing frameworks in
companies that have their own proprietary logging framework (events,
monitoring, etc), and said it would be much easier and more flexible if they could implement their own version of a Log interface to do what they need,
using their companies' APIs.

I think it is a good idea, and would be super easy - it is basically one interface (Log) and maybe a 2nd (LogFactory, whatever). Then our default implementation could use the JVM logger or SLF4J to allow any number of pluggable logging implementations. This provides greater flexibility for
any environment.  We already do the same thing for caching (Cache,
CacheManager) which in turn delegates to Caching product implementation
specific classes (ehcache, JCache, etc).  Same concept.

The thing that sounds clean to me about this, is that if it was implemented, we would have NO required dependencies on any 3rd party library. That just feels sexy. But we can still have default implementations that use our
favorite infrastructure.

Any thoughts or objections?

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