Thanks!

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Alan D. Cabrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I've transferred all the post 0.9 issues over to ASF.
>
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
> On Jul 18, 2008, at 7:21 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>
>  Once we transfer to the new Jira site, I'm going to disable the old one.
>> I'm trying to shut that instance on the server down...
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Jeremy Haile <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  I think the advantage of the migrated version is that anyone who stumbles
>>> on the old JIRA site knows that they have been moved to Apache.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 18, 2008, at 9:40 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>>
>>> We should have the 2 outstanding remaining issues for 0.9.0 RC1 to be
>>>
>>>> complete in the next few days.  Any issues other than those 2 are
>>>> essentially in the backlog.  I think maybe it would be better to have a
>>>> 'backlog' in the Apache Jira and manually copy over those 7 issues.
>>>>
>>>> That is, it probably isn't necessary to create a 'migrated' version just
>>>> for
>>>> those 7...
>>>>
>>>> Les
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Alan D. Cabrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Do you guys think this is the way to go or no?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Alan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 11, 2008, at 9:18 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Les,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you make a version called, say, "moved-to-asf" I will be happy to
>>>>>> copy
>>>>>> anything in there over to the new Jira.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2008, at 8:39 PM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah, excellent question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The basic answer is that I was waiting for us to get the 0.9 release
>>>>>>> out for our existing community before we switch to the Apache Jira
>>>>>>> 100%.  The _only_ reason being is that Jira will auto-generate
>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>> notes for us, and if all the issues for a given release are entirely
>>>>>>> under one Jira installation, then we can be sure it generates the
>>>>>>> complete list.  If we had half our resolved issues in one location
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> the other half in Jira, it would be a pain to deal with when release
>>>>>>> time comes, which is why I wanted to make a clean break at a
>>>>>>> well-delimited point in time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since there are only 2 outstanding issues for 0.9 RC1, I can just
>>>>>>> move
>>>>>>> over the remaining issues (by hand) for 0.9 RC2 and above.  This
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> make the transition a tad earlier than I originally expected, but
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> is as good a time as any probably.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's no easy way than by hand.  May as well start w/ the new ones.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Jeremy Haile wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We haven't transitioned to the Apache JIRA yet.  Our issues haven't
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  been migrated over yet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2008, at 6:24 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why hasn't this been filed on the Apache Jira?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Les Hazlewood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  http://issues.jsecurity.org/browse/JSEC-117
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Les Hazlewood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was contacted via private email yesterday about a company that
>>>>>>>>> wishes
>>>>>>>>> to use JSecurity in their product, but they were concerned about
>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>> use of
>>>>>>>>> Commons Logging, citing the now familiar classloader issues.  It
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> interesting timing because of my proposal to use SLF4J last week.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This gent's recommendation was that we have our own (very minimal)
>>>>>>>>> Log
>>>>>>>>> interface that we would use in our classes instead of Commons
>>>>>>>>> Logging.  He
>>>>>>>>> brought up a number of cases of difficulty implementing frameworks
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> companies that have their own proprietary logging framework
>>>>>>>>> (events,
>>>>>>>>> monitoring, etc), and said it would be much easier and more
>>>>>>>>> flexible
>>>>>>>>> if they
>>>>>>>>> could implement their own version of a Log interface to do what
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> need,
>>>>>>>>> using their companies' APIs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think it is a good idea, and would be super easy - it is
>>>>>>>>> basically
>>>>>>>>> one interface (Log) and maybe a 2nd (LogFactory, whatever).  Then
>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>> default implementation could use the JVM logger or SLF4J to allow
>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>>>> of pluggable logging implementations.  This provides greater
>>>>>>>>> flexibility for
>>>>>>>>> any environment.  We already do the same thing for caching (Cache,
>>>>>>>>> CacheManager) which in turn delegates to Caching product
>>>>>>>>> implementation
>>>>>>>>> specific classes (ehcache, JCache, etc).  Same concept.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The thing that sounds clean to me about this, is that if it was
>>>>>>>>> implemented, we would have NO required dependencies on any 3rd
>>>>>>>>> party
>>>>>>>>> library.  That just feels sexy.  But we can still have default
>>>>>>>>> implementations that use our favorite infrastructure.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts or objections?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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