I think we do need to put some concrete plan in place here, so I think a vote is in order.

I support changing the name, if we come up with a name that we like. Unfortunately, I don't like most of the ideas that haven't already shown to be in conflict with some project out there. I did like Apache Fortress, Stronghold, and Shield, but I think these could be more problematic than JSecurity.

Given that, I'd prefer to leave the name as it is until we come up with something that has more popular support. We do need to go ahead and repackage everything, so this question is holding up a lot of work. Let's make a decision!

Jeremy


On Dec 27, 2008, at 8:29 PM, Les Hazlewood wrote:

As this needs to be clearly resolved before we exit the Incubator, I believe
that we have 2 questions that we need to vote on formally:

1.  Will JSecurity be renamed?
2.  If so, what will that new name be?

Should we start a vote for #1, and depending on its outcome, then have a
vote for #2?

I surface #1 because I don't think we as a team reached a clear consensus as to whether or not we must do that. I'd like to just formalize that intent
in a vote just to make it absolutely clear.

The only feedback we got from Legal about retaining the JSecurity name was
from Henri Yandell:

"Given that it's a name you've been using for 4 years, and it's very
generic [jXxx being a common pattern in our space and Security being
very generic]; I'm inclined to keep the current name; though by the
same reasoning, it's a weak name as "Apache JSecurity" isn't very good
branding."

indicating that Legal apparently doesn't perceive a naming conflict (no one else made any comments in over 2 weeks). If that is the case, it appears the decision is left to the project team, which seems like a vote would be
in order.

Please note that I have no ulterior motive in kicking this thread off - I've become quite accustomed to one or two of the other proposed names and have no problems using them if the team decides that is the appropriate course of action. I'm just trying to resolve both of these two questions definitively
before next month's board report, which is coming up very soon.

What should we do next?

- Les

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