The only one that I feel like would make sense, that didn't have name/patent
conflicts, is Apache Ki.

Its a very short name, so that's kinda nice (domain name, packages, etc).
And there is a lot of room for graphics/branding - since it is pronounced
"key", lots can be done to tie in to the security theme.  That's a rather
elegant middle ground I think would work nicely for a security framework.

To me, nothing else out there that I've heard thus far (that also doesn't
have naming conflicts) sounds better than Ki or JSecurity.

What do you think Jeremy - do you think Ki might be good enough to supplant
the JSecurity name?

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Jeremy Haile <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think we do need to put some concrete plan in place here, so I think a
> vote is in order.
>
> I support changing the name, if we come up with a name that we like.
>  Unfortunately, I don't like most of the ideas that haven't already shown to
> be in conflict with some project out there.  I did like Apache Fortress,
> Stronghold, and Shield, but I think these could be more problematic than
> JSecurity.
>
> Given that, I'd prefer to leave the name as it is until we come up with
> something that has more popular support.  We do need to go ahead and
> repackage everything, so this question is holding up a lot of work.  Let's
> make a decision!
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
> On Dec 27, 2008, at 8:29 PM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>
>  As this needs to be clearly resolved before we exit the Incubator, I
>> believe
>> that we have 2 questions that we need to vote on formally:
>>
>> 1.  Will JSecurity be renamed?
>> 2.  If so, what will that new name be?
>>
>> Should we start a vote for #1, and depending on its outcome, then have a
>> vote for #2?
>>
>> I surface #1 because I don't think we as a team reached a clear consensus
>> as
>> to whether or not we must do that.  I'd like to just formalize that intent
>> in a vote just to make it absolutely clear.
>>
>> The only feedback we got from Legal about retaining the JSecurity name was
>> from Henri Yandell:
>>
>> "Given that it's a name you've been using for 4 years, and it's very
>> generic [jXxx being a common pattern in our space and Security being
>> very generic]; I'm inclined to keep the current name; though by the
>> same reasoning, it's a weak name as "Apache JSecurity" isn't very good
>> branding."
>>
>> indicating that Legal apparently doesn't perceive a naming conflict (no
>> one
>> else made any comments in over 2 weeks).  If that is the case, it appears
>> the decision is left to the project team, which seems like a vote would be
>> in order.
>>
>> Please note that I have no ulterior motive in kicking this thread off -
>> I've
>> become quite accustomed to one or two of the other proposed names and have
>> no problems using them if the team decides that is the appropriate course
>> of
>> action.  I'm just trying to resolve both of these two questions
>> definitively
>> before next month's board report, which is coming up very soon.
>>
>> What should we do next?
>>
>> - Les
>>
>
>

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