On Mar 13, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
Now that I've had time to think about it more, if ASF and the
Incubator are
ok with 'Apache Security', I think we should try to use that as the
project
name.
This would certainly open up the floodgates for lots of
contributions from
the ASF community and new ideas, given that it would have wider
visibility.
Many projects (Geronimo, Tomcat, et. al) could all help guide us as
to what
they would want. I think that'd be great for the project's
livelihood, as
well as be nice for the ASF community as a place where they could
consolidate and focus efforts.
That's the case for us right now. Interest in this project is based
solely on the product itself and the openness of the community, not by
the implication of the name.
Mentors - do you think we could use that name? (Or Apache Security
API or
Apache Security Framework, or whatever)?
There would be HUGE resistance from the other projects that are doing
their own security mechanisms.
IMO, let a thousand flowers bloom.
Regards,
Alan
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny <[email protected]
>wrote:
David Jencks wrote:
On Mar 12, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
Per this thread:
http://www.jsecurity.org/node/1081#comment-289
It appears that we can't use Ki.
So far the development team seems to be happy with "Apache
Security API",
which can have (good) far reaching implications for a good quality
framework. Any objections?
I think it implies that this project is happy to include all java
security
work at apache. For instance, would you be happy to include a
xamcl jacc
implementation that did not use your Subject but rather the JAAS
subject?
It would certainly be a java security implementation but AFAICT
has little
to no overlap with what you are doing now.
I think it also has a connotation that apache has somehow approved
your
api and all projects needing java security are expected to use it.
Dunno if anyone else gets these ideas from the name but I do. And
I'm
certainly not implying anything about the nature or quality of this
project.... just that naming one project for the entire field of
which it is
an example may not be without problems and implications.
There is some implication that need to be overviewed, that's for
sure. Now,
we may need a general security umbrella for many different project
related
to security. This could be a good starting point.
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cordialement, regards,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com
directory.apache.org
