Anatoly, your explanation was very helpfull,

Now i got it,
Javascript Engine - is like an environment just like JVM,

Node.js - runs on this environment,

Express Framework - uses Node.js to create server-side application,

Socket.io - Its like an API which can be exdended to use IO related
application.


Now considering my level of Knowledge,
though i have started reading "Javascript the good parts", i have
understood prototypal inheritance in javascript,
i have also worked on jQuery librery and Ajax and send data from
server  to Client(Browser) using JSON,

Though i am still young for Javascript,
from where should i start if i want to dabble with Javascript Engine
and Node

Should i directly start with Node or what ?
Can you please suggest.

Thanks





On Aug 21, 10:02 am, Anatoly Geyfman <[email protected]> wrote:
> server-side javascript is when the application written in Javascript is run 
> as a server handling requests.
>
> Javascript is a language, and as such can be used to do a lot of things - you 
> can make a drawing application w/ javascript on the client, and you can also 
> make a program that receives web requests, processes them, and returns a 
> response back to the requester.
>
> The javascript engine is what executes the javascript code. So, you need an 
> engine to run the program written in javascript. Without something to run 
> javascript, javascript is just a weird looking text file.
>
> So, the popular framework node.js uses the V8 Javascript engine as its 
> runtime. Think of it as the JVM - Oracle's JVM is akin to Google's V8 
> Javascipt Engine.
>
> So:
> Javascript Engine (like V8) ~ Oracle's JVM
> node.js ~ Java SE or EE (framework w/ lots of libraries + plugins)
>
> Express for node.js ~ grails, Spring MVC
> socket.io ~ netty, spring WS, Servlet 3.0
>
> I hope that helps.
>
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>
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>
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>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Rahul wrote:
> > Ok , now i understood that Javascript engine is used in browser to
> > execute loaded javascript faster.
>
> > But than what does Server-side javascript mean ? and how it has to do
> > any thing with Javascript engine ?
>
> > On Aug 21, 4:52 am, Laurie Harper <[email protected] (http://web.net)> 
> > wrote:
> > > Oops; appologies to the list for such a Node-centric reply.
>
> > > To be clear: Node is by no means the only server-side Javascript 
> > > platform; there are others. I assume the reference to "Node: Up and 
> > > Running" is an indication that that's what the OP is looking at though ;-)
>
> > > L.
>
> > > On 2011-08-20, at 7:50 PM, Laurie Harper wrote:
>
> > > > Specifically, in your frame of reference: the Javascript Engine is 
> > > > roughly equivalent to the Java Virtual Machine (JVM) -- i.e. the 
> > > > component that handles compiling/evaluating your code.
>
> > > > Tomcat is an application written in Java which implements the Servlet 
> > > > API. For web application development in Javascript using Node, the 
> > > > Express framework [1] is probably the most popular. It isn't a direct 
> > > > equivalent to the Servlet API (the approach is quite different) but it 
> > > > lives at the same level in the application stack.
>
> > > > Server-side Javascript doesn't, in and of itself, give you anything 
> > > > specific to auto-updating web pages; that's something you have to 
> > > > implement on top of HTTP, same as with any other server-side 
> > > > technology. However, socket.io (http://socket.io) [2] is a very popular 
> > > > project which makes it particularly easy to accomplish such things with 
> > > > Node.
>
> > > > Finally, note that Node is a more platform than just a web server. You 
> > > > can use it to accomplish any programming task, but it particularly 
> > > > excels at anything requiring a lot of concurrent IO.
>
> > > > I haven't read the book you referenced, but I'm sure it would be a 
> > > > great way to improve your understanding of what Node is and how you 
> > > > might use it.
>
> > > > L.
>
> > > > On 2011-08-20, at 1:58 PM, Amit Agarwal wrote:
>
> > > > > Javascript engine is the part of a browser which is responsible for 
> > > > > executing loaded Javascript code. Better your JS engine executes JS 
> > > > > faster.
>
> > > > > Details?
> > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript_engine
>
> > > > > Example?
> > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTkTBKSnqbA
>
> > > > > On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Rahul <[email protected] 
> > > > > (http://gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > > > I searched on Wikipeidia , but i didn't understood the explanation.
>
> > > > > Many article says that Javascript engine is used for "Javascript Web
> > > > > server",
>
> > > > > But how come web server ?
>
> > > > > I have worked on Tomcat server and having knowledge of J2EE framwork,
> > > > > here a browser send request using a url, now this request hits the web
> > > > > container(Tomcat),
> > > > > now webcontainer creates req. and res. object and passes it to
> > > > > servlets deployed in webcontainer.
>
> > > > > Now from my above knowledge of Webcontainer can you please explain how
> > > > > come javascript be
> > > > > a web container, and how does it helps us in client-side javascript
>
> > > > > Does javascript engine has anything to do with auto-refresh of
> > > > > webpages, like live scores of sports or stock prices listing ,
> > > > > something like this sort.
>
> > > > > Can you please suggest some books on javascript engine or Javascript
> > > > > webserver,
>
> > > > > Can O'really's Node: Up and running will be helpfull reading,
>
> > > > > Wating for a reply
>
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