Javascript, the good parts is a great primer on Javascript. Continue reading 
that. It does a pretty good job about introducing idiomatic javascript. The 
next thing is an online tutorial on Node, something like 
http://dailyjs.com/2010/11/01/node-tutorial/ or 
http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/javascript-ajax/learning-serverside-javascript-with-node-js/
 should be a good start. 

Try to write something in Node. maybe a stock ticker service? maybe a blog? 

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On Sunday, August 21, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Rahul wrote:

> Anatoly, your explanation was very helpfull,
> 
> Now i got it,
> Javascript Engine - is like an environment just like JVM,
> 
> Node.js - runs on this environment,
> 
> Express Framework - uses Node.js to create server-side application,
> 
> Socket.io (http://Socket.io) - Its like an API which can be exdended to use 
> IO related
> application.
> 
> 
> Now considering my level of Knowledge,
> though i have started reading "Javascript the good parts", i have
> understood prototypal inheritance in javascript,
> i have also worked on jQuery librery and Ajax and send data from
> server to Client(Browser) using JSON,
> 
> Though i am still young for Javascript,
> from where should i start if i want to dabble with Javascript Engine
> and Node
> 
> Should i directly start with Node or what ?
> Can you please suggest.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 21, 10:02 am, Anatoly Geyfman <[email protected] 
> (http://geyfman.net)> wrote:
> > server-side javascript is when the application written in Javascript is run 
> > as a server handling requests.
> > 
> > Javascript is a language, and as such can be used to do a lot of things - 
> > you can make a drawing application w/ javascript on the client, and you can 
> > also make a program that receives web requests, processes them, and returns 
> > a response back to the requester.
> > 
> > The javascript engine is what executes the javascript code. So, you need an 
> > engine to run the program written in javascript. Without something to run 
> > javascript, javascript is just a weird looking text file.
> > 
> > So, the popular framework node.js uses the V8 Javascript engine as its 
> > runtime. Think of it as the JVM - Oracle's JVM is akin to Google's V8 
> > Javascipt Engine.
> > 
> > So:
> > Javascript Engine (like V8) ~ Oracle's JVM
> > node.js ~ Java SE or EE (framework w/ lots of libraries + plugins)
> > 
> > Express for node.js ~ grails, Spring MVC
> > socket.io (http://socket.io) ~ netty, spring WS, Servlet 3.0
> > 
> > I hope that helps.
> > 
> > --
> > Anatoly Geyfmanhttp://www.geyfman.net
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Saturday, August 20, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Rahul wrote:
> > > Ok , now i understood that Javascript engine is used in browser to
> > > execute loaded javascript faster.
> > 
> > > But than what does Server-side javascript mean ? and how it has to do
> > > any thing with Javascript engine ?
> > 
> > > On Aug 21, 4:52 am, Laurie Harper <[email protected] (http://web.net) 
> > > (http://web.net)> wrote:
> > > > Oops; appologies to the list for such a Node-centric reply.
> > 
> > > > To be clear: Node is by no means the only server-side Javascript 
> > > > platform; there are others. I assume the reference to "Node: Up and 
> > > > Running" is an indication that that's what the OP is looking at though 
> > > > ;-)
> > 
> > > > L.
> > 
> > > > On 2011-08-20, at 7:50 PM, Laurie Harper wrote:
> > 
> > > > > Specifically, in your frame of reference: the Javascript Engine is 
> > > > > roughly equivalent to the Java Virtual Machine (JVM) -- i.e. the 
> > > > > component that handles compiling/evaluating your code.
> > 
> > > > > Tomcat is an application written in Java which implements the Servlet 
> > > > > API. For web application development in Javascript using Node, the 
> > > > > Express framework [1] is probably the most popular. It isn't a direct 
> > > > > equivalent to the Servlet API (the approach is quite different) but 
> > > > > it lives at the same level in the application stack.
> > 
> > > > > Server-side Javascript doesn't, in and of itself, give you anything 
> > > > > specific to auto-updating web pages; that's something you have to 
> > > > > implement on top of HTTP, same as with any other server-side 
> > > > > technology. However, socket.io (http://socket.io) (http://socket.io) 
> > > > > [2] is a very popular project which makes it particularly easy to 
> > > > > accomplish such things with Node.
> > 
> > > > > Finally, note that Node is a more platform than just a web server. 
> > > > > You can use it to accomplish any programming task, but it 
> > > > > particularly excels at anything requiring a lot of concurrent IO.
> > 
> > > > > I haven't read the book you referenced, but I'm sure it would be a 
> > > > > great way to improve your understanding of what Node is and how you 
> > > > > might use it.
> > 
> > > > > L.
> > 
> > > > > On 2011-08-20, at 1:58 PM, Amit Agarwal wrote:
> > 
> > > > > > Javascript engine is the part of a browser which is responsible for 
> > > > > > executing loaded Javascript code. Better your JS engine executes JS 
> > > > > > faster.
> > 
> > > > > > Details?
> > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript_engine
> > 
> > > > > > Example?
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTkTBKSnqbA
> > 
> > > > > > On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Rahul <[email protected] 
> > > > > > (http://gmail.com) (http://gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > > > > I searched on Wikipeidia , but i didn't understood the explanation.
> > 
> > > > > > Many article says that Javascript engine is used for "Javascript Web
> > > > > > server",
> > 
> > > > > > But how come web server ?
> > 
> > > > > > I have worked on Tomcat server and having knowledge of J2EE 
> > > > > > framwork,
> > > > > > here a browser send request using a url, now this request hits the 
> > > > > > web
> > > > > > container(Tomcat),
> > > > > > now webcontainer creates req. and res. object and passes it to
> > > > > > servlets deployed in webcontainer.
> > 
> > > > > > Now from my above knowledge of Webcontainer can you please explain 
> > > > > > how
> > > > > > come javascript be
> > > > > > a web container, and how does it helps us in client-side javascript
> > 
> > > > > > Does javascript engine has anything to do with auto-refresh of
> > > > > > webpages, like live scores of sports or stock prices listing ,
> > > > > > something like this sort.
> > 
> > > > > > Can you please suggest some books on javascript engine or Javascript
> > > > > > webserver,
> > 
> > > > > > Can O'really's Node: Up and running will be helpfull reading,
> > 
> > > > > > Wating for a reply
> > 
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