Sorry, let me clarify.  Some app servers support 0.91, some 0.92. Okay, so
that's a little bit of a pain.
My main problems is, I'd like to have a JSP page that when compiled into a
servlet, it's a subclass of mine, not HttpServlet.  That functionality was in
0.91 but was removed in 0.92 according to the 0.92 spec.  I'd also like that
page/servlet to be able to use NCSA-style Server Side Includes.  That
functionality was added as a part of 0.92.  So, it seems I can't have both with
any version, especially one that runs as part of anyone's [ibm, jrun, et al]'s
implementation.

Am I incorrect on my reading of the specs, or did I miss an announcement
regarding the EXTENDS functionality getting added back into the spec?

Just to give a little background for the person who might ask "why do you want
do do that?"... we've got a good set of tested code that runs in servlets, and
as a part of that we have a servlet base class that extends HttpServlet and adds
a bunch of functionality.  I'd like to be able to use that in a JSP-compiled
servlet but also have the ability to have the SSI functionality of including
reusable chunks of HTML/JSP.  For example, I'd like to have a QuoteViewer jsp
page/servlet that extends our base class and dynamicly includes an AddressViewer
page/servlet, a CustomerViewer page/servlet, and a ShoppingCart/LineItems
page/servlet.  Unless I'm misreading something, I can't easily do that with
either 0.91 or 0.92 specifications.

--jay





"Kirkdorffer, Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 04/08/99 12:35:49 PM



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Jay,

I'm not sure I understand the limitation you think you are up against.

Dan

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> To:     Kirkdorffer, Daniel
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> Re: "It works, and the implementations work"
>
> Is there an implementation out there that has:
>      0.91's <%@ EXTENDS=javaclassname %> functionality
>      0.92's SSI functionality
>      runs as part of an application server?
>
> Until that's met, I know I can't deploy using JSP*, as much as I'd love
> to...
> then again, if 1.0 shows up sometime soon, maybe I'm all wrong.
>
> --jay
>
> * yeah, I could redesign most of our stuff to work around the 0.91 extends
> vs
> 0.92 ssi intersection, but...
>
>
>
>
>
> "Kirkdorffer, Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 04/08/99 11:37:28
> AM
>
> Please respond to "Kirkdorffer, Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>
>  To:      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>  cc:      (bcc: Jay Kamm/Trilogy)
>
>
>
>  Subject: Re: UptoDate Info on JSP Needed
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> A lot of people are using or investigating JSP.  A lot of people seem to
> be
> coming from the ASP world.  You should find that although the spec is at
> 0.92, it works, and the implementations work.  We're using IBM WebSphere
> 1.0
> that implements the 0.91 spec and we have NEVER had a problem.  We've
> developed a number of internal use web apps, and external subscription
> based
> apps with JSP (model 2 approach).  The americancentury.com web site was
> recently rewritten with JSP if you want to look at a good example of what
> people are doing with it.
>
> My only complaint is that SUN has done a very poor PR job with JSP so far.
> Hopefully when the 1.0 spec is released that will change.
>
> Dan
> --
> Daniel Kirkdorffer
> Sr. Consultant, Syllogistics LLC
> Web:   http://www.syllogistics.com/
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>
> > ----------
> > From:         Ben Gill[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Reply To:     Ben Gill
> > Sent:         Thursday, April 08, 1999 8:32 AM
> > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:      UptoDate Info on JSP Needed
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have downloaded the bundle available from the javasoft site, but this
> > seems a bit flaky!  Is JSP something that has died? Are there any decent
> > examples available for use with servlets or EJB's? (The examples I have
> > seen
> > look to be calling bog-standard Java classes that are alledgedly 'beans'
> > or
> > 'servlets'!
> >
> > Also, there is no docs on where you would place the JSP, how to compile
> up
> > etc.......
> >
> > Are there any companies who are using JSP yet?
> >
> > Thanks - any help would be appreciated.
> >
> >
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