I understand your argument for EXTENDS.  As to "or did I miss an announcement
regarding the EXTENDS functionality getting added back into the spec?" - where did
you hear this? This is the first time I am hearing about this.  Then again I am not
one of the privileged "insider"....

Gabriel Wong
http://www.ezwebtools.com
----------------------------

Kamm Jay wrote:

> Sorry, let me clarify.  Some app servers support 0.91, some 0.92. Okay, so
> that's a little bit of a pain.
> My main problems is, I'd like to have a JSP page that when compiled into a
> servlet, it's a subclass of mine, not HttpServlet.  That functionality was in
> 0.91 but was removed in 0.92 according to the 0.92 spec.  I'd also like that
> page/servlet to be able to use NCSA-style Server Side Includes.  That
> functionality was added as a part of 0.92.  So, it seems I can't have both with
> any version, especially one that runs as part of anyone's [ibm, jrun, et al]'s
> implementation.
>
> Am I incorrect on my reading of the specs, or did I miss an announcement
> regarding the EXTENDS functionality getting added back into the spec?
>
> Just to give a little background for the person who might ask "why do you want
> do do that?"... we've got a good set of tested code that runs in servlets, and
> as a part of that we have a servlet base class that extends HttpServlet and adds
> a bunch of functionality.  I'd like to be able to use that in a JSP-compiled
> servlet but also have the ability to have the SSI functionality of including
> reusable chunks of HTML/JSP.  For example, I'd like to have a QuoteViewer jsp
> page/servlet that extends our base class and dynamicly includes an AddressViewer
> page/servlet, a CustomerViewer page/servlet, and a ShoppingCart/LineItems
> page/servlet.  Unless I'm misreading something, I can't easily do that with
> either 0.91 or 0.92 specifications.
>
> --jay
>
> "Kirkdorffer, Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 04/08/99 12:35:49 PM
>
>  To:      Jay Kamm/Trilogy@Trilogy
>
>  cc:      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>  Subject: RE: UptoDate Info on JSP Needed
>
> Jay,
>
> I'm not sure I understand the limitation you think you are up against.
>
> Dan
>
> > ----------
> > From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:   Thursday, April 08, 1999 10:14 AM
> > To:     Kirkdorffer, Daniel
> > Cc:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:     Re: UptoDate Info on JSP Needed
> >
> >
> > Re: "It works, and the implementations work"
> >
> > Is there an implementation out there that has:
> >      0.91's <%@ EXTENDS=javaclassname %> functionality
> >      0.92's SSI functionality
> >      runs as part of an application server?
> >
> > Until that's met, I know I can't deploy using JSP*, as much as I'd love
> > to...
> > then again, if 1.0 shows up sometime soon, maybe I'm all wrong.
> >
> > --jay
> >
> > * yeah, I could redesign most of our stuff to work around the 0.91 extends
> > vs
> > 0.92 ssi intersection, but...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Kirkdorffer, Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 04/08/99 11:37:28
> > AM
> >
> > Please respond to "Kirkdorffer, Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >
> >
> >  To:      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >  cc:      (bcc: Jay Kamm/Trilogy)
> >
> >
> >
> >  Subject: Re: UptoDate Info on JSP Needed
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > A lot of people are using or investigating JSP.  A lot of people seem to
> > be
> > coming from the ASP world.  You should find that although the spec is at
> > 0.92, it works, and the implementations work.  We're using IBM WebSphere
> > 1.0
> > that implements the 0.91 spec and we have NEVER had a problem.  We've
> > developed a number of internal use web apps, and external subscription
> > based
> > apps with JSP (model 2 approach).  The americancentury.com web site was
> > recently rewritten with JSP if you want to look at a good example of what
> > people are doing with it.
> >
> > My only complaint is that SUN has done a very poor PR job with JSP so far.
> > Hopefully when the 1.0 spec is released that will change.
> >
> > Dan
> > --
> > Daniel Kirkdorffer
> > Sr. Consultant, Syllogistics LLC
> > Web:   http://www.syllogistics.com/
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From:         Ben Gill[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Reply To:     Ben Gill
> > > Sent:         Thursday, April 08, 1999 8:32 AM
> > > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject:      UptoDate Info on JSP Needed
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I have downloaded the bundle available from the javasoft site, but this
> > > seems a bit flaky!  Is JSP something that has died? Are there any decent
> > > examples available for use with servlets or EJB's? (The examples I have
> > > seen
> > > look to be calling bog-standard Java classes that are alledgedly 'beans'
> > > or
> > > 'servlets'!
> > >
> > > Also, there is no docs on where you would place the JSP, how to compile
> > up
> > > etc.......
> > >
> > > Are there any companies who are using JSP yet?
> > >
> > > Thanks - any help would be appreciated.
> > >
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