Justin Wells wrote:
> Quoting Ray Cromwell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > Jason Hunter wrote:
>
> > What I don't get is this need to *push* WebMacro. I don't see the
> > Apache Cocoon people all over these mailing lists trying to hype
> > Cocoon. Also, what I don't see from your side is the recognition
> > of the huge value that a standard can bring. No matter how much
> > you like WebMacro, or your own custom coded system, it is far more
> > valuable to have a workable public standard that most people can be
> > familar with.
>
> Ray, I think you are not understanding how this thread started.
>
> Jason, who is not me, who is the author of the O'Reilly servlets
> book in fact, wrote an article contrasting JSP with WebMacro. He
> thought that JSP people would be interested in reading it, so he
> posted a link here. People responded to his link post with feedback,
> which he responded to.

I know who he is, but I still remember the last huge flamewar over
WebMacro a month or so ago in the thread entitled "in what ways does
JSP score over Servlets" where you were the primary agent. I'll
say it again: There are about 50 to 100 template systems out there,
and atleast 5 Java based ones.  Yet, there have not been any
significant flamewars on either the JSP or Servlet interest list
about these other products, primarily because the authors of
those products are not trying to market them here, but are content
to let their products speak for themselves.

There is no *right* way to design a web application, and I'm sure
most of the people on this list are here because they are interested
in JSP and not because they are ignorant users who don't know
any better.

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