Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> The same thing goes for WebMacro. JSP
> is a standard and is supported by the large companies and their products.
You could use the same arugment against any opensource software, and it
clearly hasn't stopped other technologies from succeeding. PERL is not
a standard, Python is not a standard, Apache is not a standard, sendmail
is not a standard, etc., and none of those technologies began life with
the backing of a major corporation. Yet they succeeded.
It's worth mentioning that JSP is not a standard either. Sun claims it
is, but Sun has withdrawn from the reputable standards process and simply
stuck their own bogus standards stamp on it. When you say that JSP is
a JSR standard backed by Sun you have said the same thing twice. It's
redundant, you should just say "backed by Sun".
But you definately have made an insightful observation: There are many
people who will never use free software no matter how meritous it may
be. They will always believe they'll get better support from Sun's
hotline than from WebMacro's mailing list. They'll never use Apache,
or PERL, or sendmail, or anything else that they didn't pay a lot
of money for.
I guess i'll just have to write those people off. I'm not losing a
lot of sleep over it.
There are other people who no doubt won't use WebMacro yet, who are
waiting to see it prove itself. That's different, and I believe that
WM will rise to the challenge these people are putting and prove itself.
> I dont see how this fits? If your doing just Java, then you wouldn't be
> using WebMacro either. Besides, learning JSP and JavaBeans DID advance my
> knowledge of Java a bit. I dont think learning WebMacro would have done that.
Take a closer look at WM. If you are using WM, you are basically using
Java. WM imposes a certain design on you, but there is hardly any
learning to be done in the WM script language. It's incredibly thin.
The big win in WebMacro is that it actually moves the emphasis back
into *ordinary* Java code. That's the key design goal. I believe that
programmers are better able to program in a normal programming
environment.
Justin
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