I completely agree with Bradley. Please use some good books on
JSP/Servlets/Java/web server and documentation from your web server
vendor/java.sun.com site/servlet vendor and if you still can not get answer
then post your question. If the kind of questions which are posted today
continue then I will have to bail out too. More important than that many
developers who take this forum seriously will have every reason to complain
to sun about this forum....

And I do not need to get anything to drink, because I am not saying this in
any anger towards anybody. I just joined this forum before about a week or
so to check it out and I am not having a very good experience. Bradley and
other developers frustration is completely GENUINE and VALID.

Akbar

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<rant>
i guess i am beginning to agree with those who complain about the number of
silly questions posted to this list.  i'm no hotshot java dude myself, and i
get a lot out of much of the 'elementary' discussion that takes place here.
but it does get a bit discouraging to go through dozens of 'what is a
webserver?' questions each morning.

in the spirit of trying to help those who are coming over to the java
platform, i've tried to help with what little i know, and i know others have
too.  but doesn't anyone know how to use the web?  a little searching
answers all of those questions without inundating busy people.

you don't know how to set up your servlet container?
don't know how to reference a bean?
don't know what a bean is?
can't understand form post?
getting funny 'class not found' errors?
don't know where to place a servlet?
etc., etc., etc.

do what i and many others did.  lurk on the forums, check the faqs, puzzle
over it a bit, search list archives, look through several books, read the
apis, try several angles, call/email the company you got the software from.
then, if nothing else works, post a question.  post only as a last resort.

as i understand it (please correct me if i'm wrong), a list like this one is
for discussions such as the model 2 stuff that has been going back and
forth, or for advanced programming questions that are genuinely hard to find
answers for.

alright, now i'll go get my coffee and calm down..
</rant>

bradley mclain

>From: Brenda Tung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Brenda Tung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:41:12 +0800
>
>hi everyone,
>
>I've just started reading up on JSP. I'm quite confused by what's the
>difference between java servlets and JSP. And where do java beans come
>into the pictures. Do i just use the use bean tags in JSP ?
>
>Thank you all for your kind attention.
>
>Brenda
>
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