I completely concur with Bradley on this one. Like him, I don't proclaim to
be a servlet or JSP expert. I'm learning about these technologies along with
everyone else. However, I'm very tired of having my mailbox filled with
messages from this list from folks who have obviously not done 10 minutes of
research before posting their question.
Sun's JSP area (http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/) has a host of documents,
all free of charge, that address many of the simple questions posted to this
list. Go out there, download these documents and READ THEM. Plunk down $30
for a JSP/Servlet book. Read it. Educate yourself. If there are concepts,
ideas or methodologies that are unclear or up for discussion, please post
them here. But all these syntax and "how do I..." questions that have been
answered a thousand times are starting to become annoying.
You know, for being a young person I hate to rant like a bitter old man. But
it's just very frustrating when the same questions are posted to this
mailing list over and over and over. All of which could have been answered
had the person spent 10 minutes and done some research on their own time
instead of wasting everyone elses.
-ryan
-----Original Message-----
From: Bradley McLain
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 3/23/00 10:10 AM
Subject: OFFTOPIC: RANT
<rant>
i guess i am beginning to agree with those who complain about the number
of
silly questions posted to this list. i'm no hotshot java dude myself,
and i
get a lot out of much of the 'elementary' discussion that takes place
here.
but it does get a bit discouraging to go through dozens of 'what is a
webserver?' questions each morning.
in the spirit of trying to help those who are coming over to the java
platform, i've tried to help with what little i know, and i know others
have
too. but doesn't anyone know how to use the web? a little searching
answers all of those questions without inundating busy people.
you don't know how to set up your servlet container?
don't know how to reference a bean?
don't know what a bean is?
can't understand form post?
getting funny 'class not found' errors?
don't know where to place a servlet?
etc., etc., etc.
do what i and many others did. lurk on the forums, check the faqs,
puzzle
over it a bit, search list archives, look through several books, read
the
apis, try several angles, call/email the company you got the software
from.
then, if nothing else works, post a question. post only as a last
resort.
as i understand it (please correct me if i'm wrong), a list like this
one is
for discussions such as the model 2 stuff that has been going back and
forth, or for advanced programming questions that are genuinely hard to
find
answers for.
alright, now i'll go get my coffee and calm down..
</rant>
bradley mclain
>From: Brenda Tung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Brenda Tung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:41:12 +0800
>
>hi everyone,
>
>I've just started reading up on JSP. I'm quite confused by what's the
>difference between java servlets and JSP. And where do java beans come
>into the pictures. Do i just use the use bean tags in JSP ?
>
>Thank you all for your kind attention.
>
>Brenda
>
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