Kurt:
I think you are talking about using JServer, not OAS. OAS isn't in the
database, but can exist on many machines in the middle tier.
OAS was voted the #1 App server.
JServer is pretty good too, during our recent tests we saw some applications
get 6 - 10 x the performance on other servers. JServer also allows you to
compile your JAVA application to directly loadable binaries, which should
give the same performance characteristics of a JIT, without having to take
the first JIT hit, nor have the cache hit/miss/flush that you see in a
server environment.
You should see some new announcements on OAS rsn. If you are thinking of
using it, I'd dump the spyglass http listener ASAP and use the Apache http
listener.
You shouldn't have any concerns in moving an application from Apache -> OAS,
which is actually ahead in it's support of the standard spec in a production
environment.
You may also want to use JServer for db intensive beans as they can really
cruise in the database. 8.1.7 fully supports EJB 1.1, and the latest
JSP/Servlet releases if you want to host those out directly too.
Thor HW
----- Original Message -----
From: "kurt kessel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: Oracle vs. Apache / JRun
> I have two issues with this type of embedded technology. First
> it is always seems to be farther behind than the non-embedded
> products. Currently it supports JSP .92 and Serlert 1.0 (2 versions
> back). This could be signficant because of the new features being
> brought out in newer versions.
>
> Secondly, it is not mobile. You have to have the servlet runner
> running on the DB server. I cannot move it around to another computer
> for load balancing. In the limited experience I have found that most
> business type web apps need more processing power on the application
> server side than the DB. This implementation won't allow you to
> easily front end a DB server with say 2 app servers with an embedded
> technology. Or if you do, you have to buy the DB for each server. And
> if you have seen Oracles recent price increase, you can probably only
> afford a single DB server license.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Kurt Kessel
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bruce Appelt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 5:48 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Oracle vs. Apache / JRun
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > We are working on a proposal for a client who has
> > expressed interest in
> > using the Oracle Web/Application Server to host a JAVA/JSP
> > web solution
> > instead of the traditional Apache / JRun solutions we usually
> > deliver. I am
> > not opposed to doing things differently, but I want the
> > client and ourselves
> > to understand fully what the trade-offs are between an Oracle
> > Web/Application Server / JSP solution and an Apache Web Server / JRun
> > solution. An HP-UX 11 will be the target server, by the way.
> >
> > My first problem is that I am not sure if the Oracle
> > Web Server and the
> > Oracle Application Server are inexorably linked together, or
> > if I can go
> > with a hybrid Apache / Oracle Application Server / JSP
> > solution instead of
> > the two previously mentioned solutions.
> >
> > My second problem is that I can find no comparative
> > information for these
> > products. Has anyone worked with Oracle Application Server
> > before? I know
> > that we are talking brand spanking new technology here, so I
> > might just not
> > be able to find anyone who knows anything about it.
> >
> >
> > Thanks so much in advance for all your comments,
> >
> > B r u c e
> >
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