Ok, first thing Jim, is that I am not a newbie. I am only a newbie in JSP, not the
Web/E-Commerce industry as a whole, there is a difference.
Seconly, Jim, when I said that some ppl might not have the necessary resources,
especially in small companies, to do the implied procedures before mailing this
listserv, I was not talking about myself, I was speaking on behalf of other newbies.
Thirdly, about questions already been asked, well here is something to think about.
The other day I got a haircut, and I asked a few people how it looked since it was a
little different from my previous haircut. And I got many responses. I actually
never heard the same answer twice. Everyone whom I asked had another critique or
comment on my new look. Same thing here, an answer to a question was already posted,
so what? You ask it again, I'm sure you will get new answers not listed in the
archives to the same question. If you are a Developer and think that there is only
one concrete way to implement something, then you are in the wrong business buddy, no
offense of course. Everyone will give you a different answer, and there are new
people joining this mailing list everyday that didn't have an opportunity to answer
this question but perhaps has another solution that has not been previously
documented. P.S. I would like other members to comment on this particular pa!
ragraph for their opinion.
Jim Wrote: (not me)
<<"If you are "desperate for quick answers" you do yourself a disservice
posting to a newsgroup and waiting hours or days for an answer when you can
look it up. If you don't know how to research, learn how.">>
In regarding the rather ignorant comment above in quotes, you are assuming too much.
If someone wants a quick answer, and posts it on this site, just tell me who told you
that they will wait for the answer and not look for more documentation on the subject
during their wait? Please tell me who told you this, i'm curious, was it God? hehe
So don't worry about novices Jimmy boy, no one is doing any "disservice" to themselves
at all, i'm sure. Developers have deadlines, it's life. If you post a question on a
site and wait for the answer, be sure to loose your job. And i'm sure there aren't
any developers as ignorant as that, they will look for documentation while they wait,
and maybe the question was only a 'just in case' method, while they did their real
research over the net.
Now if you carefully read my previous email, you will see that I did agree on most
comments about newbies asking questions, all i'm doing is asking you to empathize
since we were all there once.
As for some members asking where to find tutorials on JSP or server side technologies,
perhaps you might find it more productive to do a search on Altavista or Hotbot. It
would be much faster, trust me.
So take no disrespect Jim, but just think about it.
Yours Truly
Bobby K.
Jim Wrote:
One of the first things you need to learn as a "newbie" is that it is highly
unlikely your beginner question has not been asked (and answered)
previously. Therefore you should learn where to look up those previously
asked questions -- Usenet archives, e.g. deja.com (http://deja.com/usenet),
the vendor's FAQs and technical support areas, and mailing list archives of
the lists you subscribe to. If you don't know where to find the archives
then it is appropriate to ask where they are.
The failure of a company to adequately equip its employees with the tools
they need to do their jobs (especially for "mission critical" applications!)
is an insufficient excuse to bombard a mailing list with questions which
have previously been answered and can be found in the archives. It results
in the experts on the list unsubscribing and causes a deterioration of the
quality of the list.
If you are "desperate for quick answers" you do yourself a disservice
posting to a newsgroup and waiting hours or days for an answer when you can
look it up. If you don't know how to research, learn how. BTW, a
particularly good resource is Experts Exchange
(http://www.experts-exchange.com/).
Cheers,
Jim
Bobby Wrote:
Regarding the exhaustive comments being ranted about here regarding begginers posting
questions here. Well firsly, SSJ is a fairly new technology, under Java Server Pages
even more, so there are not that many people with expertise in this field. Secondly,
you all work in Java, so might as well promote it by helping others.
And one listserv member once said that there should be another begginer mailing list.
And if this comes true, and a begginer has a project-critical question to ask, who
will answer it, another begginer? Not too practical eh?
But I do agree that people need to research before posting questions, but also
remember, we are all developers here, we all know about deadlines and lack of time,
and the desperate need for quick answers. I agree, sometimes doing research on the
net or skimming through a book might prove to be faster, but not everyone has these
resources, especially in small companies.
So about having another begginer's mailing list, it wouldn't be practical. Listservs
has been around for a while now, it's not a new thing, so i'm sure that SUN already
thought of that and found that would be as i am guessing it would.
Personally, I rarely post questions here, but I always learn while i read other
emails, whether it be novice or advanced. Remember guys, you learn while you teach.
So here is the part you have all been waiting for, a begginer's question, hehe.
Servlets. If you have a servlet running, it means the Service() has been triggered.
But if another request is made while the Service() method is still running, you could
either create a new program execution thread, or use a pool of threads, which is most
effective, for dynamic allocation. But my novice question is, what is the maximum
capability of this ThreadPool? How many threads are awaiting allocation? Is there a
maximum default, or does the developer set it, or is this web-server-dependent or
Servlet-engine dependant(i.e. Jrun).
Thanx guys, and keep up the good work.
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