Talk about a headache. I do all of my development on Tomcat and it is
fairly easy to develop and deploy. However, I deploy the applications onto
iPlanet 4.1, Once I have finished the product on Tomcat(Working 100%) I
deploy it onto iPlanet and I have spent at least twice as much time
deploying the application than I have actually developing it. I have not
been very happy with iPlanet 4.1.
One thing that I found as kind of bizarre is that they don't implement the
specification as closely as they should, especially considering that SUN is
now a part of iPlanet. I have also found some kind of buggy things going on
with the server admin tool and the JSP engine. Has anyone else experienced
the same things?
-----Original Message-----
From: Sicaud Patrice [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:03 PM
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Subject: Re: who is the leader : Tomcat, Resin, orion, websphere ????
anyone has any comment on iPLanet 4.1?
-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Mak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: who is the leader : Tomcat, Resin, orion, websphere ????
Yes you can deploy EJB with jRun 3. You need to purchase the Enterprise
Edition of jRun 3.0 which costs $4,995. The Professional Edition supports
JSP and servlets, but doesn't provide any EJB support.
----- Original Message -----
From: Senaka Suriyaarachchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: who is the leader : Tomcat, Resin, orion, websphere ????
> Dear Artthur
> Can I deploy my EJB by using JRUN 3.0?
>
> BR
> Senaka
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of arthur alexander
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 9:34 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: who is the leader : Tomcat, Resin, orion, websphere ????
>
>
> Hey,
>
> How come there is no mention of Allaire's JRUN ??
>
> Very inexpensive (free for dev), the smallest, and
> super fast. It is always up to date, and has EJB
> and JMS built in.
>
> Their transaction monitor is 100% pure JAVA!
>
> -aa-
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kevin Duffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 10:54 PM
> Subject: Re: who is the leader : Tomcat, Resin, orion, websphere ????
>
>
> > Resin is very fast indeed. Resin has some nice features too, that
recently
> > Orion incorporated as well. Orion in my opinion offers the best bang for
> the
> > buck. First..its free for all use except commercial use. Its a full J2EE
> > implementation app server, where as Tomcat and Resin are Servlet 2.2/JSP
> 1.1
> > containers only..no EJB support, etc. Tomcat doesn't have any fail-over
> > ability as far as I know, but the latest version may support that now.
In
> > tests, I was told Orion is the fastest overall, slightly edging Resin in
> > static and dynamic page returns (JSP pages).
> >
> > WebSphere is a crappy product from what I have heard thus far. Its very
> time
> > consuming to install, and it isn't up to date by a long shot. Even
though
> > IBM just announced $2,000,000,000 of support, their latest offering
(3.5)
> > still only supports JSP 1.0 and Servlet 2.1. That is pretty sad in my
> > opinion..seeing as how they are so devoted to Java and all.
> >
> > WebLogic is a good one, but it is very expensive (as is WebSphere). We
are
> > actually going to be using WebLogic (to my dismay..I wanted Orion) for
our
> > site. It does have a strong presence on the app server market, with
> > excellent support and help. Their documenation on their site is
extensive
> > with details on everything EXCEPT web app deployment ("root" web app
> > anyways). I am having a problem getting my web app running with
WebLogic,
> > which is a breeze to do in Orion.
> >
> > For whats its worth..if you are allowed, go with Orion. It offers the
best
> > performance I have seen, it allows "auto" source reloading to keep the
> > server up while developing, fail over, session fail over, load
balancing,
> > ejb, jndi, javamail, jsp, servlets, connection pooling, transaction
> > management (I think), and a slew of other features. For $1500 per
server,
> > its 10% of the price for WebLogic for a single cpu. If you have a quad
> > server, WebLogic will cost you $60,000. Orion costs you just $1500.
Thats
> a
> > HUGE difference in price. Especially when you start dealing with
multiple
> > servers each with 2 cpus, etc. WebLogic can easily cost in the low to
mid
> > $100K range, not including tools to develop for it, which run another
$5K
> > per seat. Orion doesn't have any tools for development, but the nice
thing
> > is you can use your favorite tool to do it all. I use KAWA myself, but
> Forte
> > is a decent one too. The next version of Forte will be much better than
> the
> > current release.
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> >
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