Yep. The service pack seems to have made things a lot worse as well- the JSP
compiler doesn't pick up the classpath correctly. There were other problems
(which I forget now)- now using JRun.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hensley, Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 17 July 2000 20:06
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: who is the leader : Tomcat, Resin, orion, websphere ????
>
>
> Talk about a headache. I do all of my development on Tomcat and it is
> fairly easy to develop and deploy. However, I deploy the
> applications onto
> iPlanet 4.1, Once I have finished the product on
> Tomcat(Working 100%) I
> deploy it onto iPlanet and I have spent at least twice as much time
> deploying the application than I have actually developing it.
> I have not
> been very happy with iPlanet 4.1.
>
> One thing that I found as kind of bizarre is that they don't
> implement the
> specification as closely as they should, especially
> considering that SUN is
> now a part of iPlanet. I have also found some kind of buggy
> things going on
> with the server admin tool and the JSP engine. Has anyone
> else experienced
> the same things?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sicaud Patrice [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:03 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: who is the leader : Tomcat, Resin, orion, websphere ????
>
>
> anyone has any comment on iPLanet 4.1?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Mak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:23 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: who is the leader : Tomcat, Resin, orion, websphere ????
>
>
> Yes you can deploy EJB with jRun 3. You need to purchase the
> Enterprise
> Edition of jRun 3.0 which costs $4,995. The Professional
> Edition supports
> JSP and servlets, but doesn't provide any EJB support.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Senaka Suriyaarachchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:04 PM
> Subject: Re: who is the leader : Tomcat, Resin, orion, websphere ????
>
>
> > Dear Artthur
> > Can I deploy my EJB by using JRUN 3.0?
> >
> > BR
> > Senaka
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification
> and reference
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of arthur alexander
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 9:34 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: who is the leader : Tomcat, Resin, orion,
> websphere ????
> >
> >
> > Hey,
> >
> > How come there is no mention of Allaire's JRUN ??
> >
> > Very inexpensive (free for dev), the smallest, and
> > super fast. It is always up to date, and has EJB
> > and JMS built in.
> >
> > Their transaction monitor is 100% pure JAVA!
> >
> > -aa-
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Kevin Duffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 10:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: who is the leader : Tomcat, Resin, orion,
> websphere ????
> >
> >
> > > Resin is very fast indeed. Resin has some nice features too, that
> recently
> > > Orion incorporated as well. Orion in my opinion offers
> the best bang for
> > the
> > > buck. First..its free for all use except commercial use.
> Its a full J2EE
> > > implementation app server, where as Tomcat and Resin are
> Servlet 2.2/JSP
> > 1.1
> > > containers only..no EJB support, etc. Tomcat doesn't have
> any fail-over
> > > ability as far as I know, but the latest version may
> support that now.
> In
> > > tests, I was told Orion is the fastest overall, slightly
> edging Resin in
> > > static and dynamic page returns (JSP pages).
> > >
> > > WebSphere is a crappy product from what I have heard thus
> far. Its very
> > time
> > > consuming to install, and it isn't up to date by a long shot. Even
> though
> > > IBM just announced $2,000,000,000 of support, their
> latest offering
> (3.5)
> > > still only supports JSP 1.0 and Servlet 2.1. That is
> pretty sad in my
> > > opinion..seeing as how they are so devoted to Java and all.
> > >
> > > WebLogic is a good one, but it is very expensive (as is
> WebSphere). We
> are
> > > actually going to be using WebLogic (to my dismay..I
> wanted Orion) for
> our
> > > site. It does have a strong presence on the app server
> market, with
> > > excellent support and help. Their documenation on their site is
> extensive
> > > with details on everything EXCEPT web app deployment
> ("root" web app
> > > anyways). I am having a problem getting my web app running with
> WebLogic,
> > > which is a breeze to do in Orion.
> > >
> > > For whats its worth..if you are allowed, go with Orion.
> It offers the
> best
> > > performance I have seen, it allows "auto" source
> reloading to keep the
> > > server up while developing, fail over, session fail over, load
> balancing,
> > > ejb, jndi, javamail, jsp, servlets, connection pooling,
> transaction
> > > management (I think), and a slew of other features. For $1500 per
> server,
> > > its 10% of the price for WebLogic for a single cpu. If
> you have a quad
> > > server, WebLogic will cost you $60,000. Orion costs you
> just $1500.
> Thats
> > a
> > > HUGE difference in price. Especially when you start dealing with
> multiple
> > > servers each with 2 cpus, etc. WebLogic can easily cost
> in the low to
> mid
> > > $100K range, not including tools to develop for it, which
> run another
> $5K
> > > per seat. Orion doesn't have any tools for development,
> but the nice
> thing
> > > is you can use your favorite tool to do it all. I use
> KAWA myself, but
> > Forte
> > > is a decent one too. The next version of Forte will be
> much better than
> > the
> > > current release.
> > >
> > > Hope that helps.
> > >
> > >
> >
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