Jim - Amen! I think the "immaturity" is with a lot of IT management. They
expect JSP to be "simple" along the lines of HTML. The tools aren't quite
there yet but getting better now that J2EE is a reality. You touched on one
thing that I complain about - as part of my job as a web application
developer, I'm also expected to do the admin/config/troubleshooting for
WebSphere. Management often just doesn't understand that application servers
(at least good, full-featured ones) are complex pieces of software that
require a middleware tech as a full time position to be able to develop
expertise enough to be really good to tune them and tell when and why things
go wrong. I'm having enough trouble keeping up with the technical and
architectural changes in server-side Java development, let alone learn
enough to bring my self above a novice level as far as the app server and
all of the changes that are happening there.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 2:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: your opinions about servlets + JSP, Brazil, WebMacro and
othe r co mpeting technologies
>From the perspective of a web designer, JSP isn't very mature. There aren't
many GUI tools that support JSP and the ones that do like Dreamweaver are
first generation and need more work.
>From the perspective of a Java developer working on web applications and
user interface design, JSP is a godsend and is very mature technology. This
is especially true if you are working on enterprise applications. There
isn't any other technology that even competes on the same level with JSP,
servlets and EJBs. I don't work with GUI web development tools. I rely on
our web developers to do that and I add the Java and JSP tags that they
can't handle.
There are at least 5 books on JSP and even more on servlets. If you can't
configure the tools maybe you are out of your depth and should employ the
help of a system admin. I'm a programmer with 17 years experience and over 2
years of Java and 18 months of JSP and I don't try to configure our
webservers without help. It isn't my expertise. That a particular
implementation of a JSP/servlet engine is difficult to configure is hardly
an indication of the maturity of JSP and servlets.
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