I understand what you're saying, but, on the other hand, not all "real
life" deployments of JSP technology are as complex as you describe. For
example, I'm using it to build a (somewhat complex) administration system
for our (definitely complex) software. My users are enterprise IS people.
They won't need to deal with all the high powered stuff, like Tivoli or
MSMQ or whatever (at least for this application), but I think our web app
still counts as real life.
I'm not trying to make light of the issue of overall system configuration
and management. I agree that it is complex, and needs trained people. If I
didn't agree that it's a complex problem, I wouldn't even be doing what I'm
doing right now!
--
Martin Cooper
Tumbleweed Communications
At 09:31 AM 8/30/00 -0400, Hines, Bill wrote:
>Martin,
>
>Yes, but in real life, especially in corporate situations, that isn't
>realistic. Connectors have to be configured for ERP systems, database
>connection pooling/drivers, monitoring systems like Tivoli, message queue
>systems like MQSeries, etc. I'm not just talking about the install, but also
>the ongoing config, admin, and maintenance. Developers have to be aware of
>the app server architecture to write good code, but this sort of thing
>requires a dedicated position and some expertise to do well.
>
>Bill
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 2:55 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: your opinions about servlets + JSP, Brazil, WebMacro and
>othe r co mpeting technologies
>
>At 02:26 PM 8/29/00 -0400, Jim Bailey wrote:
> >That a particular
> >implementation of a JSP/servlet engine is difficult to configure is hardly
> >an indication of the maturity of JSP and servlets.
>
>Besides, there are counter-examples. My favourite: getting Resin installed
>and running, particularly in its standalone configuration, couldn't be
>easier.
>
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