Hello Sufi, et al.,
I did not mean to create such a huge interest in the discussion; but with
this response, I would like to pass on a few words of advice.
From my experience, learning everything at once (more than 2 significant
topics/issues) is not good. Relying on a single website or reference book,
and this list, is not good. The more you try to learn (over 2 topics at
once) will only clog your brain, and you will not remember a thing; you will
become confused with numerous issues and solutions........ but forget the
specific problem (this happens especially after years of programming).
My suggestion: Invest in 1 or 2 SERIOUS strictly-JAVA, or strictly-BEANS,
or strictly-JavaScript/HTML, or strictly any particular topic. Read this
book or two (not simultaneously, but one at a time), and complete the
examples. Bookmark 3-4 reference sites online (jspinsider.com, jguru.com,
java.sun.com, etc...), and before you know it, you will have been more
productive than everybody out there "doing it all at the same time." They
learn NOTHING FROM WHAT THE LEARN because the brain was not meant to learn A
MILLION THINGS @ ONCE, but A LOT OF ONE THING AT A TIME.
Don't feel bad; keep the list alive...... but try not to sway off-topic.
I noticed others reacted with subject lines reading "Offtopic: Whatever I
am doing...." I think this is a great mechanism for others to understand.
(Anything offtopic would be no directed to JSP, Servlets, or server
configurations... and certain other, directly-related aspects.)
As dee_dee said, chin up :o)
nasser
software/ecommerce/internet developer
----- Original Message -----
From: "sufi malak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: To: Sufi "ASK ANYTHING" Malak
> I am so sorry, I did not mean to create a kind discussion, But I am still
> considering myself newbie, it's not easy to learn everything at once, and
I
> am doing JSP, javascript, beans with JRUN, all of them are new for me, but
> asking questions from everybody here in this list because I want to learn
> and find solution to my problems, please if anybody fell that I am
bothering
> him or her reply and say it, and then I will quit posting in this list.
> Thanks
>
>
> >From: Chandhan Rangarajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
> > reference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: To: Sufi "ASK ANYTHING" Malak
> >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 09:30:49 +0900
> >
> >"SUFI" you are a celebrity now..you are as famous as JSP!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >From: Manne Fagerlind [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:56 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: To: Sufi "ASK ANYTHING" Malak
> >
> >Tom,
> >
> >I don't think it's just the range of subjects that Sufi covers that gets
on
> >people's nerves, but also the fact that he never seems to try to find the
> >answers to questions himself. I agree that he should at least read the
FAQs
> >and a book about JSP first. And I, too, get irritated when the list is
> >flooded by mails that aren't about JSP at all; I don't want to miss
> >anything
> >really interesting. I think it's getting hard to see the trees for the
> >forest. :-)
> >
> >Regards, Manne
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Tom Preston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: 02 October 2000 16:43
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: To: Sufi "ASK ANYTHING" Malak
> >
> >
> >Guys, get over yourselves. Give Sufi a break. If the only questions
> >asked in this
> >forum were JSP specification questions, the list be almost non-existent.
> >
> >SQL, Java, Javascipt, HTML, and app servers are all part of practical
> >jsp programming.
> >
> > >I ran a search on the mail I've received from this list, and to my
> >surprise
> > >found over 50 answers generated by your questions. Quite an achievement
> >in a
> > >period of just two months. The range of subjects is also quite
> >impressive,
> > >you seem to be interested in JSP, Java, Javascript , several servers,
> >HTML
> > >and SQL, to name a few. Sending us complete samples of your code is a
> >nice
> > >gesture, but unfortunately there always seems to be a problem with it.
> > >
> > >It would be nice if you would post your questions on these subjects to
> > >appropriate lists elsewhere. Reading some manuals could also help
> >before
> > >asking a question, see the list for some ideas.
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Tom
> >
> > ----------------------------------
> >| Thomas Preston |
> >| Vacation.com, Inc. |
> >| Engineering Department |
> >| 617.654.8432 |
> >| http://www.vacation.com |
> > ----------------------------------
> >
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