Thanks for explaining your query in detail.
The designers of the jsp api would be in a better position to answer your
query and better still the designers of the servlet api because we all know
that the jsp api is built on top of the servlet api.
Have a nice day.
With regards,
Sachin S. Khanna.
www.emailanorder.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob L'Estrange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: Inner scriptlet tags
> Thanks for your reply Sachin. :)
>
> You seem to be saying "Well of course you can't do that within declaration
> tags. Go and read up on JSP tags to improve your understanding" hehe.
Thanks
> for the advice, but I'm not sure you fully understood my question. It's a
> legitimate one I think. Let me expand...
>
> The supplied syntax is illegal for JSP because JSP translators consciously
> reject HTML embedded in method declarations. We're in agreement on that -
> they are built to work that way, no arguments.
>
> My question is: "Why? Why are the JSP translators built not to accecpt
HTML
> embedded in method declarations?". I'm not saying that JSP should or that
it
> shouldn't support this syntax; my goal is to understand if there is a good
> reason why JSP translators work this way. For all I know, there is a very
> good reason. As mentioned, JSPs primary competitor (ASP) does accept the
> syntax, and this is very handy. And, I do think there is an argument along
> the lines of, "Well the whole idea of server pages is the blend of HTML
and
> code. Why not support HTML embedding even within declarations of methods?"
>
> I can see that if this were to work, the declared method with the embedded
> HTML would have to have a signature that included a JSPWriter parameter.
> Beyond that, I can't see a barrier to translators being able to handle
HTML
> embedded in method declarations. But I accept that just because I cannot
see
> a problem, that there isn't one. Hence my query to this list.
>
> What do you think? Is there a good reason why this syntax is not
supported?
> Or, perhaps, it is supported by some vendors and not others?
>
> Rob
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sachin S. Khanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 11:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Inner scriptlet tags
>
>
> > Well <! .... > this is a jsp declaration and not a scriptlet.
> > There has been a lot of discussion on the difference, use of jsp
> declaration
> > and scriptlets.
> > All of which can be found at the mail archives of this list.
> > Please help yourself as well as this list by searching for them out
there.
> > Have a nice day.
> > With regards,
> > Sachin S. Khanna.
> > www.emailanorder.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Rob L'Estrange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 3:42 AM
> > Subject: Inner scriptlet tags
> >
> >
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > > I've been developing with ASP for sometime and have finally got around
> to
> > > checking out JSP.
> > >
> > > I've come across something curious. In the source code at the bottom
of
> > this
> > > email, the highlighted code would be permissible (semantically) in ASP
> but
> > > is not permissible in JSP. I'm using Tomcat 3.2.
> > >
> > > I understand where the translator is "breaking down" and why - in
short,
> > the
> > > translator has been built not to process scriptlet tags within a
> > declaration
> > > tag. And I understand that there are ways of achieving the same
result,
> > and
> > > that not all people would see this feature as necessary. But... I have
> > found
> > > the technique useful in ASP development - which is the same as saying,
> for
> > > me at least, the technique is useful in server page development. Is
> there
> > a
> > > good reason why JSP translators are not built to handle this kind of
> > syntax?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Rob
> > >
> > > ==================================
> > >
> > > <%@ page language="Java" %>
> > >
> > > <%!
> > >
> > > private void testMethod(){
> > > /* Start: Here's the violating code. */
> > > %>
> > > <p align="center">How are you today?</p>
> > > <%
> > > /* End: The violating code. */
> > > }
> > >
> > > %>
> > >
> > > <html>
> > > <head>
> > > <title>Hello</title>
> > > </head>
> > >
> > > <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
> > > <h1 align="center"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000FF">Hello</font></h1>
> > >
> > > <%
> > > testMethod();
> > > %>
> > >
> > > </body>
> > > </html>
> > >
> > >
> >
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