Your guess #1 is on the right track. Here's the statement that answers your
question (from section 2.10.1):
"A declaration should be a complete declarative statement, or sequence
thereof"
This is in contrast to scriptlets, which are just code fragments, and which
do not have to be complete individually, but only for the entire
"translation unit" (i.e. all the code for a JSP page taken together).
By the way, the spec isn't that scary - it's really a good thing to keep
handy. Unlike a lot of specs that I've seen, it's actually readable, and
fairly easy to find the answer when you have a question.
--
Martin Cooper
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob L'Estrange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: Synchronization issue
> Howdy bro
>
> Thanks for you reply. I do have a couple of points to touch on. This is
not
> an argumentitive reply.
>
> I do understand that the method doesn't explicitly see the <out> object
(see
> my second last paragraph starting "I can see that if this were to
work...").
> But instead of outright rejection of the syntax by the translator, what I
> would expect is a complilation error complaining about the non-existance
of
> an <out> variable. In other words, I would expect things to break at the
> compile stage rather than the translation stage. Do you see what I mean?
>
> It all comes back to a conscious decision (by translator implementors) not
> to accept any non-code (or, if you like, any inner scriptlet tags) within
> declaration tags. My guess is that:
> 1. The specification explicitly states that declaration tags cannot
contain
> inner tags; or
> 2. The spec makes no explicit mention on the topic.
>
> I might have to actually read the specs to get the answer from the horse's
> mouth - GULP!! :)
>
> Thanks again.
> Rob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "iZone Infotech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 1:53 AM
> Subject: Re: Synchronization issue
>
>
> > The best solution will be, get the max id at the time of updation rather
> > than creation of the page. After the updation, you can show the id to
the
> > user, if required. This way, you are not restricting anybody from
> accessing
> > the page and there will be no delay at the time of updation because
> somebody
> > else has locked the table.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Dantus
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Hamid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 1:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: Synchronization issue
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > I have created JSP page in which it first selects max of id's from
> tables
> > ,
> > > then inserting those max ids as new ids into tables. Now the problem i
> am
> > > getting is:
> > > When more than 1 concurent users hits the page, it creates the same
ids
> > for
> > > all users as all r getting the same max ids before inserting. Now i
want
> > to
> > > make the block in transaction as in Coldfusion/ASP. How can i do it in
> > JSP.
> > > Yours help will be regarded.
> > >
> > > Thanx
> > >
> > >
> > > Hamid Hassan
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
reference
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sachin S. Khanna
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 12:39 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Inner scriptlet tags
> > >
> > >
> > > Well <! .... > this is a jsp declaration and not a scriptlet.
> > > There has been a lot of discussion on the difference, use of jsp
> > declaration
> > > and scriptlets.
> > > All of which can be found at the mail archives of this list.
> > > Please help yourself as well as this list by searching for them out
> there.
> > > Have a nice day.
> > > With regards,
> > > Sachin S. Khanna.
> > > www.emailanorder.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Rob L'Estrange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 3:42 AM
> > > Subject: Inner scriptlet tags
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi All
> > > >
> > > > I've been developing with ASP for sometime and have finally got
around
> > to
> > > > checking out JSP.
> > > >
> > > > I've come across something curious. In the source code at the bottom
> of
> > > this
> > > > email, the highlighted code would be permissible (semantically) in
ASP
> > but
> > > > is not permissible in JSP. I'm using Tomcat 3.2.
> > > >
> > > > I understand where the translator is "breaking down" and why - in
> short,
> > > the
> > > > translator has been built not to process scriptlet tags within a
> > > declaration
> > > > tag. And I understand that there are ways of achieving the same
> result,
> > > and
> > > > that not all people would see this feature as necessary. But... I
have
> > > found
> > > > the technique useful in ASP development - which is the same as
saying,
> > for
> > > > me at least, the technique is useful in server page development. Is
> > there
> > > a
> > > > good reason why JSP translators are not built to handle this kind of
> > > syntax?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Rob
> > > >
> > > > ==================================
> > > >
> > > > <%@ page language="Java" %>
> > > >
> > > > <%!
> > > >
> > > > private void testMethod(){
> > > > /* Start: Here's the violating code. */
> > > > %>
> > > > <p align="center">How are you today?</p>
> > > > <%
> > > > /* End: The violating code. */
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > %>
> > > >
> > > > <html>
> > > > <head>
> > > > <title>Hello</title>
> > > > </head>
> > > >
> > > > <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
> > > > <h1 align="center"><font face="Arial"
> color="#0000FF">Hello</font></h1>
> > > >
> > > > <%
> > > > testMethod();
> > > > %>
> > > >
> > > > </body>
> > > > </html>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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