In the "Looking for java Positoin" thread, somebody mentioned certification
as a way to spark off your career. That brings to mind a question I've had
about the certification, that you fellow "listers" (a new word?) might have
an opinion on.

If I understand the information on
http://suned.sun.com/US/certification/java/index.html right, you have to
have the "Sun Certified Programmer for Java 2 Platform" before you can get
the "Sun Certified Web Component Developer for Java 2 Platform, Enterprise
Edition (J2EE[tm])". This seems rather reasonable.

What bothers me is that the the "Sun Certified Programmer for Java 2
Platform" includes AWT knowledge. As stated in
http://suned.sun.com/US/images/certification_progj2se_07_01.pdf (page 8),
this includes "using ... LayoutManager ... and resize behavior,and
distinguish the responsibilities of layout managers from those of
containers".

Surely I start my Java journey learning to program GUI applications with
Swing (and thus some AWT). But since I have been developing web apps only
for the last year or year and half, I do not remeber how to use the layout
manager (thought I remember clearly I hated them...). But if I want to get
the J2EE certification I have to learn this again to pass the basic
certification (am I right?).

What does everyone else think about this?
To me it seems like some PR move from Sun, so that everyone with a
certification must know how "wonderful" their AWT technology is and be able
to promote that.

Mattias Jiderhamn
Expert Systems
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