I wish Janne, you would have gone through jspwiki.org and deleted the
20-60% of the site that is obsolete today. Let's shrink the problem and
see where we are after that. At any rate, http://www.jspwiki.org/, as
you describe it, is an orphan work and probably not usable for us.
Maybe we should just shut it down. If we create our own Wiki (with
everything henceforth Apache licensed), within a few to several months
it will probably repopulate with the most useful material that was on
the old site anyway. I would suspect pure facts from www.jspwiki.org
*can* be transferred to the new site as facts aren't copyrightable.
Can the Commons-licensed http://doc.jspwiki.org/2.4/ be donated to
Apache or does it have the same copyright problem as
http://www.jspwiki.org/ ? It would be nice if we could move
http://doc.jspwiki.org/2.4/ to the Apache site.
Quote: "Well, because of trademark issues it would be odd that Apache
would use the word JSPWiki and I'd have still control of the domain."
Not necessarily, Apache doesn't own www.chemistry.com, www.tomcat.com,
www.pig.com, www.chemistry.org, www.camel.com, and probably many
others. I think the main thing though is that the site can't act like
it's the Apache product. With the two sites above shut down or moved to
Apache, you might just be able to release the domain instead of giving
it to Apache.
Glen
On 01/31/2013 04:12 PM, Janne Jalkanen wrote:
Well, because of trademark issues it would be odd that Apache would use the
word JSPWiki and I'd have still control of the domain. I can't recall whether
I already did the paperwork passing the name to ASF, or whether it was needed
in the first place, but I think the consensus was that it's better that ASF
takes control of jspwiki.org - even if it's nothing but a redirect to
jspwiki.apache.org/wiki or wiki.jspwiki.apache.org or something.
As to the content, that I can't donate to ASF (because of mixed copyrights), so
if someone else wants to take a copy and run it on their server under some
other domain name (or ASF graciously allows the use of old.jspwiki.org ;-). I
cannot run it here anymore for legal reasons.
/Janne
On Jan 31, 2013, at 00:31 , Glen Mazza <glen.ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think we should get JSPWIKI-739 done before considering "hatching" out of incubation.
Right now, all of our documentation is off the Apache site and our informal Wiki ("Legacy
Site") is under lock-and-key due to Finnish legal reasons.
We do not need to shut down the jspwiki.org site--as that's a third-party site
we have no control over it (the fact that it's owned by a JSPWiki committer
doesn't matter, it's a third-party site and from an Apache JSPWiki perspective
it is outside of our control.) But we should have our system documentation and
probably a Wiki to be *on* the Apache site, even if it's duplicated by third
party sites like jspwiki.org. I would like to get the Infra folks to host a
JSPWiki site (we are *sooo* much faster than Confluence Wikis, and we could
probably get other Apache projects to adopt us) but if they won't do that, and
our only options are (1) hosting our documentation off Apache using JSPWiki or
(2) hosting our documentation on Apache w/Confluence Wiki, perhaps (2), however
unpleasant, should be evaluated.
Glen
On 01/30/2013 04:24 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez wrote:
Hi!
all the "management" stuff is done, I think that it's just matter of
demonstrating community readiness/knowing the apache way, which is
something rather difuse. Our next board report is due to next April, so
arriving there with a second release and exposing our intentions of
graduating (previous discussions, voting) should be enough to pass the
graduation IPMC vote, IMO.
@mentors, WDYT?
br,
juan pablo
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Harry Metske <harry.met...@gmail.com>wrote:
+1
but what about graduation, what steps are still necessary, we can't stay in
the incubator forever...
kind regards,
Harry
On 28 January 2013 21:38, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
juanpablo.san...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
2.9.0 was released last December, and I was wondering if we could release
2.9.1, somewhere in late March*.
2.9.1 would be mainly a manteinance release, including not only ~15 fixed
issues, or whatever the number of issues solved by then, but also:
* requirement of at least Java 6 to compile (as Java 6 is being outdated
this February I think it isn't a break-dealer)
* ChangeLog published on site
* initial maven support (JSPWIKI-651)
* drop TranslatorReader (deprecated since 2.3 and unused in src)
The last one should -technically- be done on 2.10 scope, but it's been
ages
since it was deprecated and unused... Anyone using it nowadays, is it
safe
to remove? Thoughts on the other points?
* saying "late March", but meaning "as the points agreed to be included
in
2.9.1 are done"
br,
juan pablo
