So much discussion on desinvolture and not a word in reference to the anarch - 
if any figure of Junger's embodies this quality it is surely the anarch. 
Manuel's discussions on the anarch could be used as a definition of 
desinvolture. This is another reason why I am so keen on the book and would 
love to engage in an online reading/discussion group using this text. Die 
Schere is also very interesting - why don't we start both texts - Eumeswil in 
English and Die Schere in German. That's my input to the decision making 
process.

Thomas Friese

-----Original Message-----
From:   Mandy Kuhl [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent:   Sunday, February 08, 1998 6:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject:        Re: What exactly is desinvolture?


Dear Gary,

It seems of some importance to me to consider the practical value of 
desinvolture.
Whether it contains principles of the right way how to live or not depends 
mainly on the reader. I think, there are certain paralleles to Carlos 
Castaneda's "Teaching of Don Juan". It is said that whatever you "must" do...do 
it but be aware that it leads you to nothing.  Well, all you do is hardly more 
but endless fooliness. Once realized it is hard to be involved any longer as 
all loses its importance and becomes one...becomes nothing. 
It seems to me the last step on a way which Juenger goes as well...but very few 
meters only compared to Don Juan. Anyway, Juenger is physically caught in time 
and circumstances but he's psychologically free to an extent. Doubtless, his 
desinvolture makes him live a better life, maybe even survive.
I think, his desinvolture might seem like a loss of "humanism" from time to 
time. But who knows, loss might be gain sometimes.
Gary, am I wrong or didn't I answer your question?  Well, to put it briefly- 
I'm convinced that practiced desinvolture would help ourselves to come back to 
life at its most elemental aspects.  5 advices are maybe;
1st) Be yourself!
2nd) Don't let everybody know WHO you are!
3rd) Observe !
4th) Don't judge but understand!
5th) Maintain your distance!etc......
Bye  Mandy



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