-----Mensaje original----- De: Thomas Friese Enviado el: miércoles 27 de mayo de 1998 9:18 Para: '[email protected]' Asunto: The Catacombs, the Forests, Knowledge and Being.
> Auf die Rueckkehr titanischen Wessens in die Gestalt
> des Arbeiters verweist der Zustrom plutonischer
> Energie, die voresrtst eher gefuerchtet, ja negiert
> wird als bherrscht. Das wird erst moeglich, wenn
> sie sich personifiziert.
> So, was heißt plutonische Energie? It's a little obscure...
Dear John and Jungerites: Thanks for bringing up the plutonic energy question -
you have accidentally given me the solution of a old mystery.
I explain: your reference reminded me of a related passage in Eumeswil that has
until now always struck me oddly - I could not understand whether this was
because I misunderstood Junger's terms and categories or because there was an
error in the translation (where it's underlined)
(Following on from a discussion of evolution, experiments and nature as
an experiment:)
"As little can be expected from evolution as from any progress. The
great change transcends not only the species but the entire bios. It is a
crucial loss that mere fragments have come down to us from the most ancient
documents. The difference between the forests and the catacombs seems to be
that in the former one experiments at the Tree of Knowledge and in the later at
the Tree of Life (I thought it would have been the reverse)
Attila is familiar with the forests; he has lived there for a long time
as at many outer limits. That is why I listen very attentively to his words and
even more to his silences. Likewise, more is happening in the catacombs than
the hoarding and administering of knowledge. It is the foundations of the
species and not of consciousness that are being shaken. In the forest, a new
Isis out to be engendered, and Prometheus liberated from the Caucasus by the
subterranean."
Page 341
There always seemed to be a paradox in these two consecutive paragraphs goes
in her search. She goes to Eleusis: and that take us to the keys: drugs- wow!
all is interlaced!. In Eleusis she was at first refused-"Dieu se retire", but
after some maledictions people found the Mysterys- gods came again.Then she
request to Zeus to take part for she. And Zeus and Pluto get an agree.
Persefone keep living with Pluto in the underworld and but came back every
spring. Conclusions?
About this I recomend you "Searching Persefone", and "Road to Eleusis", by
RGordon Wasson, Albert Hofmann, Carl A. P. Ruck, Jonathan Ott and Robert
Graves.
Page 361.
(Doesn't all this seem especially relevant in light of the recent clonings of
animals. Who knows what else goes on and will go on "down there"....)
Since astrology is quite important in Junger's works, I would also mention
something I vaguely recall about cycles of planetary effects on the earth -
apparently Pluto has been closer to the earth over the last 80 years or so than
it has in centuries. This is supposed to have caused the emergence of all sorts
of "buried skeletons" and "dark shadows". It came closest to earth sometime
this decade and is now moving further away, if I recall correctly. Just a
symbol....but an interesting one. Does anyone else know more about this??
Thomas Friese
www.eumeswil.org
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